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If Leafs Lose Or Win

Created by: KingExLeafs
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 27, 2024
Published: Apr. 27, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Change is needed regardless. The coach, the captain, the goalie and Marner should not be on this team next year. Look at what Florida did 2 summers ago. They got a new coach, made a big trade, and now they're a serious team that has a legitimate shot at winning the Cup.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,350,000
2$1,350,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,500,000
3$4,500,000
6$5,000,000
3$2,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Batherson, Drake
  2. Chychrun, Jakob
  3. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
OTT
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Tavares, John ($5,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Both sign extensions. Marner joins the line of Tkachuk and Stutzle. JT plays on Giroux's line.
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$87,500,000$83,441,667$0$0$4,058,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$7,500,000$7,500,000
C, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, RW
RFA
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Apr. 27 at 3:32 p.m.
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ROFL OTT would do bath 1 for 1 for marner, they decline
Apr. 27 at 3:32 p.m.
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Remove Batherson and Tavares
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Apr. 27 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
ROFL OTT would do bath 1 for 1 for marner, they decline


wdym lol thats a steal - as long as we can make the cap work
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Apr. 27 at 3:41 p.m.
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Sens decline .
Apr. 27 at 3:42 p.m.
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wdym lol thats a steal - as long as we can make the cap work


Do not like Tavares. Only want Marner if Chychrun and Norris are the ones out the door. Not moving a 1st unless it’s for a RD or top goalie
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Apr. 27 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
ROFL OTT would do bath 1 for 1 for marner, they decline


Love him or hate him, Marner is by FAR worth more than Batherson.
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Apr. 27 at 3:53 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Do not like Tavares. Only want Marner if Chychrun and Norris are the ones out the door. Not moving a 1st unless it’s for a RD or top goalie


JT is integral to this package. No JT, no Marner.
Apr. 27 at 3:59 p.m.
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
JT is integral to this package. No JT, no Marner.


1 of the 2 are not going to waive. 1 season of JT at 5.5M$ is not bad value tho.
Apr. 27 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
1 of the 2 are not going to waive. 1 season of JT at 5.5M$ is not bad value tho.


He can be flipped at the deadline to a contending team for a 1st and a prospect at 2.75 million. It's a win-win-win trade if JT decides to waive.
Apr. 27 at 4:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
Love him or hate him, Marner is by FAR worth more than Batherson.


teams will pay more for a 5M top 6 RW in his prime over a 12M RW. this is a cap world, cap hits mater.
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Apr. 27 at 4:14 p.m.
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teams will pay more for a 5M top 6 RW in his prime over a 12M RW. this is a cap world, cap hits mater.


Teams pay for stars and difference makers. Marner is that in the regular season. He'll help the Sens make the playoffs, Batherson won't.
Apr. 27 at 4:17 p.m.
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Teams pay for stars and difference makers. Marner is that in the regular season. He'll help the Sens make the playoffs, Batherson won't.


rofl, teams looking for balanced team that can win a cup, having 12M players hurt that, Bath at 5M leaves 7M for other players that combined will outproduce marner by 50+ points and help much more OTT or any team win than marner alone.
Apr. 27 at 4:29 p.m.
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1. Tavares and Marner both veto the trade with Ottawa.



2. Every time you make a trade with Ottawa, it involves Marner.

Come up with something else.
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Apr. 27 at 4:54 p.m.
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Just what the Sens need, 6m more cap. What nonsense making a nonsensical trade and trying to justify it with extensions.
Apr. 27 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: sensonfire
1. Tavares and Marner both veto the trade with Ottawa.



2. Every time you make a trade with Ottawa, it involves Marner.

Come up with something else.


And to top it off, every subsequent trade is more and more irrational.
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Apr. 27 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
And to top it off, every subsequent trade is more and more irrational.


What's irrational is bringing back JT and Marner every year.
Apr. 27 at 5:09 p.m.
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
What's irrational is bringing back JT and Marner every year.


You continually posting nonsensical sh$t is irrational; both players have full NMC’s.
We get it - you don’t like Marner or Tavares; I don’t like reality tv but kind of pathetic to rage against it all day every day 🤷🏻.
Marner & JT aren’t getting moved ; maybe you should take a break or support a different team or 🤐
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Apr. 27 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
You continually posting nonsensical sh$t is irrational; both players have full NMC’s.
We get it - you don’t like Marner or Tavares; I don’t like reality tv but kind of pathetic to rage against it all day every day 🤷🏻.
Marner & JT aren’t getting moved ; maybe you should take a break or support a different team or 🤐


don't get mad.
Apr. 27 at 5:17 p.m.
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
don't get mad.


Not mad, just embarrassed that some of my fellow Leaf fans are so irrational. But there’s a lot of us - bound to be a few loose screws in the machine 🤷🏻
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Apr. 27 at 5:19 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
Not mad, just embarrassed that some of my fellow Leaf fans are so irrational. But there’s a lot of us - bound to be a few loose screws in the machine 🤷🏻


Define irrational. Trading underperforming players making too much money isn't irrational to me.
Apr. 27 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: KingExLeafs
Define irrational. Trading underperforming players making too much money isn't irrational to me.


They have full NMC’s
No chance they both waive for Ottawa; the chances of them both extending in Ottawa are less than zero
No chance the Leafs trade them in division

This whole post is the definition of irrational over reaction , but you do you bud. I’m sure Tre is monitoring and will follow your directives 🤡
Apr. 27 at 5:25 p.m.
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teams will pay more for a 5M top 6 RW in his prime over a 12M RW. this is a cap world, cap hits mater.


100% agree that cap hit matters.. that still doesn’t change anything. Marner out produces Batherson and it’s not just by a bit. Marner is also elite defensively and a key part of both the PP and PK.

Batherson’s career high in points is 66 which he had this year… Marner has had more than that in EVERY season he’s played except his rookie season where he had 61 points.. as a rookie Marner was better than Batherson is now.

Marner >>> Batherson.
Apr. 27 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
They have full NMC’s
No chance they both waive for Ottawa; the chances of them both extending in Ottawa are less than zero
No chance the Leafs trade them in division

This whole post is the definition of irrational over reaction , but you do you bud. I’m sure Tre is monitoring and will follow your directives 🤡


I hope he is. The Leafs might actually win in the Spring.
Apr. 27 at 5:38 p.m.
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I hope he is. The Leafs might actually win in the Spring.


Next level 😂 bravo 🙌 👏
Apr. 27 at 6:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_92
Love him or hate him, Marner is by FAR worth more than Batherson.


The value Batherson brings at less than 6m…. Does Marner provide double the value for double the cap hit? I would argue no.

Batherson is Ottawa’s best value contract. Trading him out to pay Marner his new deal wouldn’t be shrewd. If anything Bath is the exact kind of contract you keep in order to make Marner at 12m work with the cap.
 
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