You guys are going to love him. I can't wait for the narrative to change on him now that he plays with actual good players. Guy was a favorite in MTL, no reason he won't be in WPG.

Any word on the conditions yet? Assume it's not GP based otherwise it would have been listed as a 2nd that bumps up

Edit** just realized the conditions weren't on the 1st, my bad

treat him well. we all loved him

Disappointing for Winnipeg. I guess the price was just way too high for better options.

With any luck Montreal fans will be right and he'll be a positive addition.

You will love him he is better defensively than you think he is

I hope so old friend. At least I don't have unrealistically high expectations for him, so he may be able to meet or exceed them. that would be great.

I know you and others are disappointed, I had this analysis que'd up but I didn't really feel like arguing with Jets fans anymore about whether or not Monahan is worth a 1st round pick, but now that the trade has happened I hope it helps you understand a bit:

So a common thing I keep seeing from Jets fans is "we have Namestnikov we don't want Monahan he is a 4C on this team".

The most common thing I see is "Namestnikov is better 5v5".

At a glance this seems to be true, Namestnikov has 18 5v5 points in 44 GP at a rate of 2.03 P/60 while Monahan has 17 5v5 points in 49 GP at a rate of 1.65 P/60. However as with anything, we should consider the context.

Monahan's linemates (minimum 60 min together at 5v5):
- Anderson 250 min (9 5v5 pts in 595 min, 0.91 P/60)
- Gallagher 184 min (12 5v5 pts in 576 min, 1.25 P/60)
- Pearson 175 min (6 5v5 pts in 312 min, 1.15 P/60)
- Evans 163 min (12 5v5 pts in 581 min, 1.24 P/60)
- Armia 115 min (7 5v5 pts in 377 min, 1.11 P/60)
- Ylonen 68 min (7 5v5 pts in 338 min, 1.24 P/60)

He's not working with much, on average his linemates P/60 weighted by ice time together at 5v5 is 1.12 P/60, Monahan is +0.53 P/60 above his linemates at 5v5... he is essentially carrying them.

Now Namestnikov:
- Perfetti 389 min (17 5v5 pts in 542 min, 1.88 P/60)
- Ehlers 253 min (27 5v5 pts in 615 min, 2.63 P/60)
- Iafallo 179 min (11 5v5 pts in 588 min, 1.12 P/60)

Perfetti and Ehlers are far better linemates than anyone Monahan has to work with. On average, Namestnikov's linemates P/60 weighted by ice time together at 5v5 is 1.95, Namestnikov is +0.08 P/60 above his linemates at 5v5 so basically what you would expect.

My argument is, if you put Monahan on WPG's 2nd line with Ehlers and Perfetti I would bet you would get way more production from him at 5v5, and even better results from that line than with Namestnikov.

The next most common claim is that "Monahan benefits from powerplay time in MTL, something he surely won't get on a contender".

Powerplay Rates:
- Monahan: 5.6 P/60

- Perfetti: 5.3 P/60
- Connor: 5.2 P/60
- Scheifele: 4.4 P/60
- Iafallo: 2.5 P/60
- Niederreiter: 2.5 P/60
- Vilardi: 1.9 P/60
- Ehlers: 1.4 P/60

Looks like Monahan might be a guy that could help the Jets powerplay to me. I also notice that the Jets seem to use 2 units more balanced than most NHL teams so no matter which unit he's on he will get a decent amount of powerplay time.

Anyways I truly believe Jets fans are going to be happy with this deal, Monahan has been very good on a bad MTL team this season. Hopefully he brings that to the Jets.

I for one, am very excited about the addition of Monahan! I think this was a win for both teams honestly, Kent Hughes with incredible asset management.

Solid analysis my friend, thanks!

Right, the conditional pick is a 2027 3rd rounder which MTL will get if the Jets win the cup!

Holy cow! You spent a lot of time on that and I appreciate the analysis. I really hope you're right and it plays out as your analysis shows. I just don't want to get my hopes up.

All in all, Monahan will be loved in Winnipeg. He does EVERYTHING.

And yes, Kent Hughes got 2 first round picks for 74 games of Monahan.

You never truly know how a player will perform in a different environment or a different system. That said, Monahan's quality of linemates has definitely gone up and if he gets a chance to play PP1 bumper I think you will see an improvement to WPG's bottom 10 powerplay. I think his work in the bumper for MTL is the only reason their powerplay is actually decent this year.

I'm honestly happy you're settling down my friend.
The market pointed at a 1st round pick. I know it seems steep, but that's the market.

But as of right now, Monahan is a Jets. And you have every right to love him.
Habs absolutely loved him from start to finish.

Now that you'll watch him play, you'll see his hockey I.Q..
And don't forget: Habs forwards SUUUUUUCCCKKK.
So I can see Monahan benefitting from the Jets forward group way more.

I wonder what's next... Chris Tanev for the MTL 2nd and Logan Stanley? Not much would have to be retained (around $300k).

That would be nice. The PK is starting to come around, so if he does actually improve the PP it would be a nice boost.

That's hilarious, I was just creating an AC-GM, with that EXACT return for Tanev lol. I think that would be such a good addition but there will definitely be competition.

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I also saw another WPG AC-GM acquiring Erik Johnson from Buffalo...I wouldn't mind having him as a depth piece too. I wonder what the cost for him would be,..

Believe me. I want you guys to be right. I hope you can come back here at the and of June and be able to say "see, we told you he was a good player that would really help!"

Thanks for coming around, and loosening up a bit of that Hab-hate haha

Go Jets!

There was never any Habs hate. Just player dislike.

He got two 1sts for Monahan, that's really good asset management, now he needs to turn those picks into something great though.

Imagine an alternative universe where Chevy calls up Treliving and says he'll take Monahan off their hands for a 1st... 🤔

I'm just hoping they get some decent depth and if they can use Stanley (who doesn't want to be here) to do part of the heavy lifting then so be it.

I read that in my head in the voice of Rod Serling.