Corey Perry will never ever ever wear a Kings jersey. You ready to see a player get booed by their own fan base every time he touches the puck?

Ottawa is not paying to move Mathieu Joseph.

Try again.

Devils should probably take Johnson at that price

CHI doesn't do a single one of those trades. I'd stick to BOS and SJS ACGM's if I were you.

Probably but where would you play him?

This isn't realistic at all. Either the Hawks or the other team involved decline every one of these deals. Entwistle for a 5th is the only trade that makes sense, but doubt it will be the Sharks acquiring him

4LW unless there's an injury

Avs decline for a number of reasons, but the biggest one being his cap hit.

CHI didn’t do itself any favors giving Foligno and Perry such big dollar deals. COL is a no.

There's a lot more "wrong" than this here... lol

- Mads Sogaard is the Sens goalie of the future (even Tkachuk said that), they're not moving him like that

- This ACGM is for the trade deadline, which is WAY TOO LATE because the deadline to sign Pinto this season is December 1st

- Mark Kastelic should be Ottawa's 4th line C for a while, pretty big and intimidating, elite on faceoffs and good enough defensively. Doesn't have a great start this season but he'll be fine. Another piece they're not looking to move

- THE only guy that makes sense to move (Kubalik) is not even involved here.


You should take Ottawa's trade and run. Sogaard, Joseph and Kastelic are actually good pieces, you'd be getting them for FREE

So we all cried about the Devils been small now you want a 5'8 dude LOL, i swear ppl cant make up their mind. Devils need size not more speed, they also need RHD

They are fine, but OTT is unlikely to pay all that AND take Blackwell back just to offload $1.75M in salary. I doubt CHI would have much interest in any of them and, without moving other players, we don't have the roster space for them. We have better younger options than Kastelic, Joseph is not a long term piece and he doesn't help CHI in the short term, and we have goaltending for the foreseeable future. Plus, it looks like KD is going to continue to pad the salary cap with overpaid veterans to get over the floor, so that he can continue to have space for young players to get NHL opportunities. So, why would he take up roster space with two more contracts (Kastelic, Soogard) that don't help them get to the floor?

I understand the context and everything but the point is when you can get valuable assets for free you take them and figure it out later. I know I would

In a perfect world, sure. But there are rules and penalties for breaking those rules that make the juice not worth the squeeze. If you are saying the proposal, at face value, favors CHI, I completely agree. But they just can't do it without being penalized for roster limits and/or risking players on waivers that we don't want to risk.

You mean the contracts limit? I'm sure Chicago has worse players than Kastelic and Sogaard that they could waive/move/bury in the AHL/ECHL

Imagine being a fan of another team, if the Hawks had to clear 2 M$ in cap space and were offering you to take a better Dickinson, Entwistle, Söderblom and a 4th for free, would you do it?

Yeah. Contract and roster limits (mainly the roster limit, since we still have plenty of contract space). The only players I would be comfortable with waiving are Reese Johnson, Colin Blackwell, and Nikita Zaitsev. And we are already going to need one of those roster spots very soon when Kurashev is healthy. They could also send Guttman or Kaiser down, being waiver exempt, to create some space. But, I doubt KD is willing to do that. He seems intent on building from within and not taking scraps from other teams just because "they are free". He definitely isn't sending Reichel down, either.

But, I wouldn't compare Dickinson, Enty, and Soderblom to this package either. Soderblom is a much more valuable and promising goalie, IMO. Entwistle is younger cheaper and more exciting than Kastelic, and I personally believe he has some untapped upside and could be a legit part of CHI's future as a role player and a leader. Dickinson and Joseph are about the same, IMO. Joseph is probably a little more youthful and streaky, offensively, but he also has more term. Whereas Dickinson is a great role player, comes with very little commitment since his contract expires at the end of the season, and is pretty darn affordable. Plus, CHI isn't in a position where they need to move players, so they wouldn't give them away for free. KD has put CHI in a situation where they have all the leverage possible in almost every situation.

Simply put, there is no need to take on contracts and risk our own players for guys that don't project to be part of CHI's future.

Hey sorry for the late reply, I kept this bookmarked, had a busy week

The thing is that none of the 4 pieces are close to being scraps. Sogaard is an excellent goalie prospect and has been rated high for years. Joseph is bouncing back and is an excellent 2-way 3rd liner, well deserving his 2.95 AAV (actually worth a lot more than that with how he's playing). Kastelic was a very good 4th line C last season and finished Top-12 on FO% in his rookie season (doesn't have a great start this season though). A 4th round pick is also not a scrap when it's free.

I understand the roster/contracts limitations but Sogaard + 4th you absolutely take this and waive one guy down (Blackwell or Johnson) to get Joseph in. Kastelic, you don't have to keep him on the roster but he would get claimed if he was put on waivers. The point if someone is stupid enough to give you these assets for free, you take it and run. The ONLY move you are forced to make is send a guy down for a significant roster upgrade.


Ok I guess it's opinions but how is Soderblom a much more valuable and promising goalie? He's 2 years older than Sogaard, 6.5/8.0 on Dobber vs 7.5/6.0 (both haven't been updated in 1-2 years though). I never seen AS ranked above MS in any prospects ranking. Just some quick examples :

https://www.eliteprospects.com/ranking-portal/55b0b201-1aae-4bfd-addb-8ebae0e9836f/top-20-goalie-prospects-in-the-nhl
https://dobberhockey.com/2023/05/31/top-50-fantasy-prospect-goaltenders-spring-2023/

On Dobber, Sogaard is 6th vs 34th for Soderblom... I know Sens fans are being accused left and right of all is wrong in the world but I wouldn't say anything without empirical support, don't worry.

Joseph is better overall than Dickinson, who just had more points last season as he stayed healthy and played with less crappy players than Joseph. I can bring a lot more facts if you want

I can understand preferring to have Entwistle instead of Kastelic but it was to make up for the difference for the other 2

Again, as I said, I understand the context/needs and everything but when you can get valuable assets for free you take them and figure it out later. No team in the NHL would turn this down, Sogaard, Kastelic and a 4th don't count against the cap, they just have to fit Joseph so it depends if they have enough space or who they could bury in the AHL.

Anyway, moot point as I would NEVER do that in a million years.