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Feb. 8 at 9:03 p.m.
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Three soft goals. Team deflated in front of him.

How do you not pull the goalie after that?


They don’t ever pull Vitek. Just leave him in there for however long he feels like it
Feb. 8 at 9:04 p.m.
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They don’t ever pull Vitek. Just leave him in there for however long he feels like it


It’s basically waiving the white flag.
Hard to build winning culture with that.
No chance we are reaching playoffs.
Feb. 8 at 9:06 p.m.
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Jesper Bratt’s defense should get more attention than it does.
Feb. 8 at 9:06 p.m.
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It’s basically waiving the white flag.
Hard to build winning culture with that.
No chance we are reaching playoffs.


Vitek needs to be out regardless as a cap dump. Would save us nearly a mill in bonus space next year

Bastian also sucks
Feb. 8 at 9:13 p.m.
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We should try Nosek in McLeod’s old spot…between Timo and Mercer. Really liked what I’ve seen thus far.
Feb. 8 at 9:15 p.m.
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Holtz turnover
Calgary goal

Wouldn’t be surprised to see him scratched next game.
Feb. 8 at 9:19 p.m.
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Holtz turnover
Calgary goal

Wouldn’t be surprised to see him scratched next game.


Chris Tierney would never turn it over because he doesn't actually ever have possession
Feb. 8 at 9:23 p.m.
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Chris Tierney would never turn it over because he doesn't actually ever have possession


Holtz bailed on puck in corner to avoid a hit. I am pro-Holtz…but that was ugly.
Feb. 8 at 10:03 p.m.
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That game stunk…the 2nd goal against was 2021-22 all over again. Confidence evaporates, momentum melts away. Vitek has lost the room.
Feb. 8 at 10:10 p.m.
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Some heavies would be great, if they can play.

Now that McLeod is gone, we probably should be in market for center that can grind dmen and peel puck off boards. Not sure who that guy is….Dowd, Gourde, Howden…but arn’t really goons. Are there any heavies available that play center?


Gotta find something
Feb. 8 at 10:10 p.m.
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Gotta find something


4th line got caved in tonight. Lazar looked good, Nosek and especially Bastian did not
Feb. 8 at 10:11 p.m.
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It’s basically waiving the white flag.
Hard to build winning culture with that.
No chance we are reaching playoffs.


The rebounds
The poor d play
Wtf
Feb. 8 at 10:12 p.m.
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That game stunk…the 2nd goal against was 2021-22 all over again. Confidence evaporates, momentum melts away. Vitek has lost the room.


I'd say for a while now tbh
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Feb. 8 at 10:17 p.m.
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The rebounds
The poor d play
Wtf


Vitek got beat clean a few times too…saved by post or missed shot. Should have been pulled.

It was a mess
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Feb. 8 at 10:19 p.m.
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Vitek got beat clean a few times too…saved by post or missed shot. Should have been pulled.

It was a mess


Agreed
But also he should have never played
Lindy should have realized it could go this way
Now what
Feb. 8 at 10:20 p.m.
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Should have never played
Lindy should have realized it could go this way
Now what


Now you avoid bonus overages and move onto next year with a top 12 pick to use as an asset
Feb. 8 at 10:28 p.m.
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Now you avoid bonus overages and move onto next year with a top 12 pick to use as an asset


Not ideal buddy
It may go that way but that stings
Feb. 8 at 10:39 p.m.
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Not ideal buddy
It may go that way but that stings


Walk into the draft with 2 1sts (trade toffoli for 1) and go get a hammer (Swayman if the contract discussions don't work out)
Feb. 8 at 10:49 p.m.
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Agreed
But also he should have never played
Lindy should have realized it could go this way
Now what


Fight on through Feb 18…if not within ~4 pts of playoff spot after outdoor game, start prepping team for 2024-25. Get sense of what it takes to acquire goalie over summer, sell whoever won’t be here in 2024-25 to acquire those assets.
Feb. 8 at 10:56 p.m.
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Fight on through Feb 18…if not within ~4 pts of playoff spot after outdoor game, start prepping team for 2024-25. Get sense of what it takes to acquire goalie over summer, sell whoever won’t be here in 2024-25 to acquire those assets.


Our 1st+1st acquired from Toffoli trade+Schmid for Swayman if things don’t go well in those negotiations.

Go after Jake Evans and/or Yakov Trenin.

Hughes-Haula-Holtz
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Mercer-Meier-other winger
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Daws
Feb. 8 at 11:11 p.m.
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Our 1st+1st acquired from Toffoli trade+Schmid for Swayman if things don’t go well in those negotiations.

Go after Jake Evans and/or Yakov Trenin.

Hughes-Haula-Holtz
Hischier-Palat-Bratt
Mercer-Meier-other winger
Evans-Trenin-Lazar
Hughes-nemec
Siegs-Hamilton
Bahl-Marino
Swayman
Daws



Add a undervalued assets at deadline
Trade Toffoli at deadline for Broberg+Kemp
Over summer, lock up Mercer
Trade for Veteran goalie (doesn’t need to be top-5)
Extend Nosek, Foote
Add depth…(>44 contracts)
Try for Graf
Bring Gritsyuk over
Give Casey one more year
Use our 1st (maybe 3C or defensive dman)
Add a dman (upgrade on Bahl)
Add depth
Add more depth
Feb. 9 at 12:13 a.m.
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Add a undervalued assets at deadline
Trade Toffoli at deadline for Broberg+Kemp
Over summer, lock up Mercer
Trade for Veteran goalie (doesn’t need to be top-5)
Extend Nosek, Foote
Add depth…(>44 contracts)
Try for Graf
Bring Gritsyuk over
Give Casey one more year
Use our 1st (maybe 3C or defensive dman)
Add a dman (upgrade on Bahl)
Add depth
Add more depth


What is the thinking with Broberg and Kemp?
Moving on from Marino and or Siegs at some pt soon?
Casey is figured in here. I assume (hope) Bahl is moved.
Not challenging just wondering.
Feb. 9 at 12:20 a.m.
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What is the thinking with Broberg and Kemp?
Moving on from Marino and or Siegs at some pt soon?
Casey is figured in here. I assume (hope) Bahl is moved.
Not challenging just wondering.


Depth really.

Broberg fits Fitzy mold for dman. Long, mobile, decisive with puck. Kemp is a more of a throwback crease-clearer. And fiends with Hughes boys.
Feb. 9 at 12:28 a.m.
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Depth really.

Broberg fits Fitzy mold for dman. Long, mobile, decisive with puck. Kemp is a more of a throwback crease-clearer. And fiends with Hughes boys.


Just did a lil homework on Kemp and saw the throw back comments. Is Broberg just stuck behind good d on the big team? His skating is raved about.
Feb. 9 at 12:20 p.m.
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Goaltending was really bad last night.
Not sure there are as many options available as people think...likely gotta wait until March.
And in March...it may be too late by then.

Defense and puck control has been getting better...
Nemec is a stud.
Hughes is a stud.
Marino has been steady.

Bahl....I just cannot watch another Bahl pass into the skates.
He is great defensively...and actually appears better against the rush than last year.
But overall, I trust Hatakka more right now.

Hughes looked rusty...as expected. Timing a bit off. He'll be fine.

Bratt's defense really should be talked about more...maybe be our best defensive forward after Hischier.

Timo will find his grove. You can see he wants it.

Nosek has looked good since he returned...I like him at center.

Holtz needs work. Cannot sugarcoat anymore.
He has got to work on the turnovers.
Its not that they are many of them...its just they are in the worst spot.
Until it gets figured out, I don't think he plays in top-six.

I'm betting one of Toffoli or Holtz isn't on this team come October 2024.
Both have elite shots...but one is really slow...the other is prone to big mistakes.
Just a question of which is better option.
I am starting to lean towards guy who protects puck more.
 
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