Canucks pass. No cap.Tanev is worn out.Injuries have taken a toll on him.Hes not the same player he once was.IMHO.

Fair enough

L.M.A.O.

4 years of Girard plus a 1st rd pick for one year rental of retained Hanifin?? Keep dreaming brother

4 years at $5M for this ? Girard plus a top-10 protected first for Hanifin is more than fair

Yup, everyday of the week.

You think Hanifins numbers would look like that stapled to Josh Manson or Erik Johnson as a D partner? Absolutely not.

Girards numbers are a by product of playing on a D core that features Toews, Makar and Byram. He matched Hanifins offensive output with less TOI, less PP time, less games played and stuck with weaker D partners

Edmonton declines, we have enough lefties on the back end

This you? If that's what you think Saad is worth, even at 50% retention, you lose all credibility with me

I assume you admit defeat here seeing as after only one reply you’ve completely shifted the topic of discussion. Must’ve struck a nerve as you felt the need to sift through my past AGMs to pick a new leg to stand on lol XD

As for that AGM, yes that’s me. Title was something along the lines of “What would Saads asking price be?” As I was asking the opposing fans base what the asking price would be.

A 1st and a 3rd rd pick for 3 years of Saad at 50% retained seemed close. The 3rd was for the three years of retained salary (6.75mil total, comparable was the NYI paying a 2026 2nd for 5mil of Bailey to get dumped), and a 1st for Saad himself.

It was an honest attempt at determining his trade value. Bad example to pick to try to discredit me kiddo lol

Enjoy your big dub on the internet today kid, it seems to mean a lot to you

Did you just go dig up dirt on someone because your argument wasn't feeling as sturdy?

Those numbers are comparisons to teammates as well which is difficult when you have 3 of the best dmen in hockey on your team and you don't play with any of them.

I don't follow the Avs closely, but I thought you all were trying to get out from under that contract? I'm not saying that the proposed deal was good or commenting on Girard's skill, but if your D is good enough that a guy on your bottom pair is making 5m, that is a luxury that most teams cannot afford for multiple seasons.

No cap room for Boston to do this deal.

34 year olds who are not signed beyond the current season typically are not going to net a 2nd round pick in the offseason. Maybe at the TDL when teams are desperate. Boston is in a dire situation at C, but I wouldn't call them desperate. They can simply embrace having a down year and explore their FA options.

There's been talk about Girard being on the block for the longest time, and about the Avs wanting to move that contract, yet suddenly he's untouchable in a deal for a much better D man

It's a media concoction that has no basis in reality. The team values Girard very highly and does not want to move him. He's not untouchable, but he certainly isn't some cap dump either. His contract is a good one and will look better and better as the years pass.

And let's be clear -- if it is really the case that Girard is more of a 2nd pairing guy who is only on the 3rd pair because he is behind a bunch of other good defensemen, then the Avs wouldn't trade for Hannafin in the offseason since D isn't an area of need. Maybe at the deadline, depending on how the season shakes out. But they're better off seeing what areas of need pop up in season given that his contract isn't a burden at this moment in time.

There is nothing wrong with Girard or his contract, he’s just the flavour of the month trade chip COL fanbase uses to find ways to move salary to afford Toews new contract.

He may appear to line up on the “third pairing” but look at his utilization and ice time, he plays second pairing minutes, I believe he had 3rd highest average ice time on the team?

I have pointed this out ad nauseum so I know by heart that he's actually 4th behind Makar, Toews, and just barely Byram. He's waaaay ahead of Manson though, which places him firmly in the top 4, regardless of how lineups are posted.

As a bone to the op, all else equal Hanifin is preferable to Girard. But all else ain't equal, and the difference is significant.

People on the internet want to move on from Girard. The Avs front office loves Girard. They won't move him unless they get an offer they feel is fair.

Most fanbases act as if pairings are locked in stone. Avs fans know Bednar changes his defensive pairings all game long. Girard dressing on the third pair means almost nothing.

Are you living under a rock by chance? Tanev has been the best shutdown defenseman in the league over the last 3 years

Hes 33 lost a couple of steps.He has a Documented injury history.What rock did you crawl out from.Its MY opinion.

Injury history yes. That does not chance the fact that he has been undeniably elite defensively the last 3 years.

Yep thats the past had some great years for the Nucks too.Hes not a fit for us.Im not sure how much longer his body will hold out.Hes just not worth Poolman(ltir) a 2nd and a 3rd come on really.

Lol, no **** the last 3 years is the past. Thats how time works. The problem is you said he's not the same player he once was, and injuries have taken a toll on him. Which makes no sense because clearly his performance hasn't dropped from those injuries as he hasn't fallen off at all. Unless you know about some secret hockey league thats taken place in the last 3 months since the season ended there hasn't been any fall off in terms of performance