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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 14, 2023
Published: Jul. 14, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,800,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny ($2,500,000 retained)
WSH
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (DET)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$79,587,380$0$1,850,000$3,912,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C
RFA - 1
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1

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Jul. 14, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
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FartButt the 3rd
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If in some magical world of fantasy where this would happen, I'd rather move Norris to the wing to protect his shoulder. Would keep Kuzy at C.
Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:02 a.m.
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Quoting: jlteebo
If in some magical world of fantasy where this would happen, I'd rather move Norris to the wing to protect his shoulder. Would keep Kuzy at C.


Agreed. Kuzy would also be a terrible winger
Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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Capitals decline
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:42 a.m.
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Have to at least take out the retention and I’m still not sure the caps take that. Very likely not
Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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Need a 2-way winger, not an offensive center. But let's say Dorion still did that :

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris- Batherson
Kubalik - Kuznetsov - Pinto
Smejkal/Kelly - Kastelic - MacEwen

Don't split Norris-Batherson

Quoting: brady_t12
Have to at least take out the retention and I’m still not sure the caps take that. Very likely not

How much could they get for Kuz?

They're getting 2.35 AAV in cap space + 2nd + 4th here and while Joseph is not as good offensively, he's good defensively and has elite metrics on the PK
Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:59 a.m.
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Pinto signs for more.

And the trade with Washington benefits neither team.
Jul. 14, 2023 at 10:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Need a 2-way winger, not an offensive center. But let's say Dorion still did that :

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris- Batherson
Kubalik - Kuznetsov - Pinto
Smejkal/Kelly - Kastelic - MacEwen

Don't split Norris-Batherson


How much could they get for Kuz?

They're getting 2.35 AAV in cap space + 2nd + 4th here and while Joseph is not as good offensively, he's good defensively and has elite metrics on the PK


I mean however you justify it, Joseph isn’t really a positive value asset. We don’t need another bottom 6 winger. Either take out Joseph or the retention but the caps would rather get a useful player back.
Jul. 14, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Need a 2-way winger, not an offensive center. But let's say Dorion still did that :

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris- Batherson
Kubalik - Kuznetsov - Pinto
Smejkal/Kelly - Kastelic - MacEwen

Don't split Norris-Batherson


How much could they get for Kuz?

They're getting 2.35 AAV in cap space + 2nd + 4th here and while Joseph is not as good offensively, he's good defensively and has elite metrics on the PK


Quoting: brady_t12
I mean however you justify it, Joseph isn’t really a positive value asset. We don’t need another bottom 6 winger. Either take out Joseph or the retention but the caps would rather get a useful player back.


i think the Caps-Sens trade boat sailed when Ottawa shipped out DeBrincat. That's the kind of player the Caps are looking for
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
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Quoting: brady_t12
I mean however you justify it, Joseph isn’t really a positive value asset. We don’t need another bottom 6 winger. Either take out Joseph or the retention but the caps would rather get a useful player back.


And Kuznetsov is a positive asset right now?

Players are not batteries with a plus or minus attached to it. They are assets with an AAV valuation (by every team)

But anyway, this is just a random idea thrown by a hockey fan, it won't happen. Doesn't fit both team needs

Joseph can be very useful to a team that needs a big PK and ES defensive boost.
 
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