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Repeat last offseason

Created by: Shanesaw9
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 3, 2023
Published: Jul. 3, 2023
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So far they've added Newhook which was Dach 2.0.

Can they take on a contract for a draft pick like they did with Monahan last season?

Can they dump Carey Price's contract for cap dump as well to get out of LTIR and avoid bonus overages over the next 3 years?

I feel like the Vancouver one is realistic, interested to here the thoughts from Canucks fans.

I'm not sure how aggressive the Blues will be this offseason but that was the cap dump around the league I arrived at as a good fit. If they want to make another splash they will need cap space, this would achieve that.

Another Cap dump candidate is Matt Murray, but I just don't know where he fits in, Laval maybe if they send Primeau back? Not sure how realistic these cap dumps are, cap space seems to be extremely valuable right now so this is what I'd be looking at for returns to make it worth it.

The thought regarding Hoffman at 50% is that Dadanov just resigned at $2.25M × 2 years, Avs took Johansen at $4M (Hoffman was just as productive), someone who wants a player that could help a functional powerplay would take Hoffman at 50% retained I think.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
4$3,250,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
Trades
1.
MTL
    Future Considerations
    NYI
    1. Hoffman, Mike ($2,250,000 retained)
    2.
    MTL
    1. Myers, Tyler
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    Habs eat a $6M cap hit this year but they get a veteran roster defenseman and they're out of LTIR so there will not be any bonus overages moving forward.
    VAN
    1. Price, Carey
    Additional Details:
    Vancouver is already operating in LTIR so there is little downside to taking on Price's contract, especially compared to dumping Myers contract.
    3.
    MTL
    1. Scandella, Marco
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
    STL
    1. Norlinder, Mattias
    Additional Details:
    Blues bring Tarasenko back? Or acquire other players with the cap space from this deal.
    4.
    MTL
    1. Murray, Matt
    2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
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    2024
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    22$83,500,000$81,380,833$1,170,000$4,210,000$2,119,167
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    $1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
    C, LW, RW
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 7
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    $7,850,000$7,850,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
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    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 4
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    $3,362,500$3,362,500
    C, RW
    RFA - 3
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
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    $4,450,000$4,450,000
    C
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    UFA - 2
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
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    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 2
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    $775,000$775,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
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    $812,500$812,500
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
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    UFA - 3
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
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    $1,925,000$1,925,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $766,667$766,667
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
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    $885,000$885,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    C
    RFA - 4
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $918,333$918,333 ($0$0$0$0)
    RW, C
    RFA - 4

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    Jul. 3, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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    Paying a 2nd to dump Scandella at this point in Free Agency is wild. Not really sure Scandella is a dump at all to begin with. He'll have some value at the deadline. It's more likely we move out Rosen or Bortuzzo and remain where we're at. Re-signing Tarasenko certainly isn't a priority for them at this juncture.
    Jul. 3, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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    I'm not sure the Habs want to take on a cap facilitator strategy this year. They seem to genuinely want to "let the kids play" so bringing in more Monahans gets in the way if that.

    Don't get me wrong, I am open to it, but I doubt any of these happen.

    Also I think we'd be very luck to move Hoffman or Armia, there are still a ton of free agents available at sub 1M numbers.
    Jul. 3, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
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    Can we just get our 2nd back?🤣
    Jul. 3, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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    Quoting: jonh514
    I'm not sure the Habs want to take on a cap facilitator strategy this year. They seem to genuinely want to "let the kids play" so bringing in more Monahans gets in the way if that.

    Don't get me wrong, I am open to it, but I doubt any of these happen.

    Also I think we'd be very luck to move Hoffman or Armia, there are still a ton of free agents available at sub 1M numbers.


    Bring em in and immediately waive them then scratch them in the AHL. Take on the draft picks and inform the bums we're acquiring that their days are done, go coach minor league hockey somewhere.
    Jul. 3, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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    Paying a 2nd to dump Scandella at this point in Free Agency is wild. Not really sure Scandella is a dump at all to begin with. He'll have some value at the deadline. It's more likely we move out Rosen or Bortuzzo and remain where we're at. Re-signing Tarasenko certainly isn't a priority for them at this juncture.


    As I said, not sure what the Blues plan is this offseason but if they'd like to improve and need cap space to do it this is an option. Keep in mind that Toronto's 2nd round pick will be late (it was 60th this year), and at that range only ~25% of drafted players even become NHL players... let alone getting Norlinder in return who himself was literally a 64th overall pick, pretty much the most common player you're gonna get at that point in the draft. When yoy really analyze it, I think it's wild that this deal wouldn't interest you especially if it allows you add a better player through free agency.

    Quoting: jonh514
    I'm not sure the Habs want to take on a cap facilitator strategy this year. They seem to genuinely want to "let the kids play" so bringing in more Monahans gets in the way if that.

    Don't get me wrong, I am open to it, but I doubt any of these happen.

    Also I think we'd be very luck to move Hoffman or Armia, there are still a ton of free agents available at sub 1M numbers.


    I have Scandella and Murray both in Laval, so they aren't getting in anyone's way. I didn't move Armia (he's in Laval), you could be right about Hoffman we will see.

    If you want to let the kids play then taking on Cap dumps is the only useful thing MTL could do with their surplus of cap space this season, your logic seems contradictory - would you rather they just sit on the cap space instead of leveraging it into draft picks?

    Edit: Other than Myers I suppose, but he could also be waived if we feel that way who cares. We know there will be injuries, there always are.
    Jul. 3, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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    As I said, not sure what the Blues plan is this offseason but if they'd like to improve and need cap space to do it this is an option. Keep in mind that Toronto's 2nd round pick will be late (it was 60th this year), and at that range only ~25% of drafted players even become NHL players... let alone getting Norlinder in return who himself was literally a 64th overall pick, pretty much the most common player you're gonna get at that point in the draft. When yoy really analyze it, I think it's wild that this deal wouldn't interest you especially if it allows you add a better player through free agency.



    I have Scandella and Murray both in Laval, so they aren't getting in anyone's way. I didn't move Armia (he's in Laval), you could be right about Hoffman we will see.

    If you want to let the kids play then taking on Cap dumps is the only useful thing MTL could do with their surplus of cap space this season, your logic seems contradictory - would you rather they just sit on the cap space instead of leveraging it into draft picks?

    Edit: Other than Myers I suppose, but he could also be waived if we feel that way who cares. We know there will be injuries, there always are.


    The cap hit is marginal is the issue. Scandella isn’t terrible. I personally really dislike his game but that’s mainly due to for some reason him being very active in the offensive zone, yet he has virtually no skill in the offensive zone. But in terms of a 3rd pairing guy he’s fine.

    I don’t have much in depth looks at Norlinder, but if I had to guess he’s what we have a glut of and that’s left handed defenseman that are fringe/3rd pairing project guys. Not a bad player, we just have a lot of those.

    At Scandellas cap hit and with where the rest of our roster is and the direction Armstrong hinted at (roster virtually being set in stone) I’d venture to guess we move out one of our guys in that mould who we wouldn’t have to pay to move. Scandellas cap hit isn’t great but it’s 3.25 for this year. Factor that in to us virtually being at cap once Toropchenko signs and it’s hard to imagine we find a better version of Scandella at his cap hit on a short term deal.

    I get that the 2nd is probably going to be pretty late which is fine but given what we could probably afford to chase it’s be a marginal upgrade at the cost of the 2nd and probably a 4th which is what I’d expect Scandella to return at the deadline if we stink with retention.

    Our issue is mainly we need a top 4 LD. Only way this would make sense if we were to chase Hanifin. If we did that then maybe this would make a bit more sense, but we have so many guys with trade protection and term it’d be hard to extend Hanifin and the cost of acquisition and dumping Scandella in the process probably isn’t worth it with as many other question marks as we will have
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