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Dubas moves

Created by: Victor24
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2023
Published: Jun. 17, 2023
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My guess is a trade with Tor and a trade down with someone like Chi.
Then a whole lot of UFA signings.
Bunting and Aston-Reese because of Tor connection
Rodriguez, De Hann, and Archibald due to analytics reasons
Anderson because the trend now is a 1A / 1B goalie tandem sort of set up.
Trading Rutta, Granlund, and Puustinen for more draft capital
If Fla isn't interested, they keep Rutta and Puustinen
If Dal isn't interested, they buy out Granlund

Advanced analytics like DeSmith but he isn't 1B material. I would try to sneak him through waivers later in the offseason or keep him around as long as possible.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
1$900,000
1$800,000
4$4,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
2$950,000
4$4,000,000
3$3,500,000
3$5,500,000
3$1,500,000
4$4,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Samsonov, Ilya [RFA Rights]
TOR
  1. Friedman, Mark
  2. Légaré, Nathan
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
2nd and 3rd for Samsanov
3rd, underachieving prospect, and cheap 7th D for underachieving Robertson
2.
PIT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
CHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. 2023 4th round pick (FLA)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Puustinen, Valtteri [RFA Rights]
  2. Rutta, Jan
Additional Details:
Fla could use a D man and I think Dubas prefers draft capital to a B prospect
4.
PIT
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Granlund, Mikael ($1,500,000 retained)
5.
PIT
    Future considerations
    TOR
    1. Carter, Jeff ($1,500,000 retained)
    Additional Details:
    A capable 4th line center but slow
    If Tor declines, the Pens keep him as a scratch / 4th liner
    6.
    PIT
    CHI
    1. 2023 4th round pick (FLA)
    Additional Details:
    To eat 1MM in Rutta cap
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
    Logo of the TBL
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    Logo of the TOR
    2024
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the DAL
    Logo of the FLA
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    2025
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$77,057,259$0$0$6,442,741
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Guentzel, Jake
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Crosby, Sidney
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Rakell, Rickard
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Bunting, Michael
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Malkin, Evgeni
    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Fast, Jesper
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Robertson, Nicholas
    $796,667$796,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Rodrigues, Evan
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Rust, Bryan
    $5,125,000$5,125,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    O'Connor, Drew
    $800,000$800,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Poehling, Ryan
    $850,000$850,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Aston-Reese, Zach
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Nylander, Alexander
    $775,000$775,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Archibald, Josh
    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Pettersson, Marcus
    $4,025,175$4,025,175
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Letang, Kris
    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Samsonov, Ilya
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
    $825,000$825,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    Petry, Jeff
    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Andersen, Frederik
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Smith, Ty
    $900,000$900,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    De Haan, Calvin
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    Ruhwedel, Chad
    $800,000$800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    DeSmith, Casey
    $1,800,000$1,800,000 ($650,000$650K$650,000$650K)
    G
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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    We aren't trading Robertson for a tweener 8th dman
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
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    Forward signings solid, but D needs a lot more work
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 5:10 p.m.
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    cant see DAL wanting Granlund, retained or otherwise
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 5:50 p.m.
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    Doubt Chicago uses pick #44 to move up 5 spots unless it's on the draft floor and there is a player at #14 they love.

    And Hawks won't burn a retention slot for 2 seasons for a 4th.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: mferraro
    We aren't trading Robertson for a tweener 8th dman


    A 7th D, a 3rd, and a prospect. That's more than enough for a guy who has 3 goals in 31 games and who hasn't had a good season since the OHL.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    Doubt Chicago uses pick #44 to move up 5 spots unless it's on the draft floor and there is a player at #14 they love.

    And Hawks won't burn a retention slot for 2 seasons for a 4th.


    I figured it would be a draft day thing and only if CHI liked a guy Pit didn't.

    The retention is 1MM, that wouldn't cost a lot.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    A 7th D, a 3rd, and a prospect. That's more than enough for a guy who has 3 goals in 31 games and who hasn't had a good season since the OHL.


    Ah, I misread. The value is probably on par. I just don't think we (or me) are ready to dump him.
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    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stadel
    cant see DAL wanting Granlund, retained or otherwise


    Granlund was not a fit on the Pens. His style matches Dal much more. He would be a replacement for 3rd / 2nd line and he would only be 3.5MM. Dal needs forwards who can play top 2 lines and Domi is gone.

    Last season with Nash he was:
    Top 50 in the NHL at drawing penalties, top 50 in takeaways, was decent at preventing goals and shots, and was great on the PP (15th in NHL in PP points)

    I could see Dal being interested for 3.5 a year
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: mferraro
    Ah, I misread. The value is probably on par. I just don't think we (or me) are ready to dump him.


    That is fair. He may be worth another look, if the new regime disagrees, Dubas might want him.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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    The Penguins pass on Aston-Reese. Aston-Reese did not develop and play to expectations.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: pensfan21
    Forward signings solid, but D needs a lot more work


    You think?
    The defenseman signed by goal prevention (5v5, 500+ min, 215 players total)
    Letang: 2.79 (141st)
    Petterson: 2.73 (128th)
    Petry: 2.63 (102nd in NHL)
    POJ: 2.92 (166th)
    De Haan: 1.89 (1st in NHL)
    Smith (9 game sample): 2.34 (would be 29th if he had enough games)

    All had a corsi of 52% or better (top 100 in NHL)
    All had 80+ hits (minus Smith but he was on pace for 80+) (top 100 in NHL)
    All had expected goals per 60 of 0.19 or better (top 100 in NHL)

    That isn’t a bad defense.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    I figured it would be a draft day thing and only if CHI liked a guy Pit didn't.

    The retention is 1MM, that wouldn't cost a lot.


    It's not the amount. Hawks have already used one retention slot for the next 2 seasons in the McCabe trade to Toronto. If they retained on Rutta, they only have one slot left each of next 2 seasons. Not a good move for a rebuilding team. Pretty confident Hawks aren't burning that 2nd slot for 2 years for just a very late 4th.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    Granlund was not a fit on the Pens. His style matches Dal much more. He would be a replacement for 3rd / 2nd line and he would only be 3.5MM. Dal needs forwards who can play top 2 lines and Domi is gone.

    Last season with Nash he was:
    Top 50 in the NHL at drawing penalties, top 50 in takeaways, was decent at preventing goals and shots, and was great on the PP (15th in NHL in PP points)

    I could see Dal being interested for 3.5 a year


    Granlund can't play top 2 lines. his underlying numbers have been dreadful accross multiple teams and multiple years. even retained, this doesn't really move the needle. I think RHD is first on the wish list and then some cost effective help up front.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: DragonKnight
    The Penguins pass on Aston-Reese. Aston-Reese did not develop and play to expectations.


    ZAR numbers and rankings 5v5 vs forwards with 500+ min
    Expected Goals: 10 (234th)
    Hits: 161 (36th)
    Corsi: 47% (268th)
    Expected Goals Against per 60: 2.34 (66th)
    High-Danger shots against per 60: 1.96 (62nd)

    So you are likely talking about the goals and possession. They aren’t good. I'm talking about the goal prevention and hitting.

    I wanted to make a 4th line that prevented goals. This one is very good at that. I don't need them to score. That's what the top three lines do.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    It's not the amount. Hawks have already used one retention slot for the next 2 seasons in the McCabe trade to Toronto. If they retained on Rutta, they only have one slot left each of next 2 seasons. Not a good move for a rebuilding team. Pretty confident Hawks aren't burning that 2nd slot for 2 years for just a very late 4th.


    That's fair. I'm sure another team would do it if CHI wasn't interested.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: Stadel
    Granlund can't play top 2 lines. his underlying numbers have been dreadful accross multiple teams and multiple years. even retained, this doesn't really move the needle. I think RHD is first on the wish list and then some cost effective help up front.


    His scoring touch has taken a hit since 2020. He can still pass and work the dirty areas. If Dal isn't interested, and no one else is either, Pit would just buy him out.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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    Leafs say **** ***
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Newtown
    Leafs say **** ***


    **** ***
    ......
    Yeah man?
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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    What reason do the Leafs have to do that?
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    His scoring touch has taken a hit since 2020. He can still pass and work the dirty areas. If Dal isn't interested, and no one else is either, Pit would just buy him out.


    I feel like its headed that way, no? I mean maybe a rebuilding team would take the full salary if a pick came with it.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: NR1203
    What reason do the Leafs have to do that?


    Dubas is a nice guy. They should give him things for free.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: NR1203
    What reason do the Leafs have to do that?


    They are in a bit of a cap crunch next season and Woll looked good in the playoffs. I figured they could use the picks to trade for a player they might want for cheap or to free up more cap space.

    Robertson might be more of a Dubas guy and the new regime might want something new.

    Quoting: Newtown
    Dubas is a nice guy. They should give him things for free.


    They should? Oh, then I should remove the picks and prospect. Thanks for the tip!
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    You think?
    The defenseman signed by goal prevention (5v5, 500+ min, 215 players total)
    Letang: 2.79 (141st)
    Petterson: 2.73 (128th)
    Petry: 2.63 (102nd in NHL)
    POJ: 2.92 (166th)
    De Haan: 1.89 (1st in NHL)
    Smith (9 game sample): 2.34 (would be 29th if he had enough games)

    All had a corsi of 52% or better (top 100 in NHL)
    All had 80+ hits (minus Smith but he was on pace for 80+) (top 100 in NHL)
    All had expected goals per 60 of 0.19 or better (top 100 in NHL)

    That isn’t a bad defense.


    Our defense was absolutely brutal last year and this just subs De Haan and Smith in for Rutta and Dumo. Which is an improvement, but it needs much more work. We had 0 physical presence and left people wide open in front of our net constantly. There were disastrous pinches as well, and the team couldn't keep a lead at all. There was no ability to lock down and play team defense at all, which also fell on the forwards too, but still. Our transition game was also awful. We need a good puck mover, that was Sullivan's #1 priority at the trade deadline and Hextall didn't comply.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 10:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: pensfan21
    Our defense was absolutely brutal last year and this just subs De Haan and Smith in for Rutta and Dumo. Which is an improvement, but it needs much more work. We had 0 physical presence and left people wide open in front of our net constantly. There were disastrous pinches as well, and the team couldn't keep a lead at all. There was no ability to lock down and play team defense at all, which also fell on the forwards too, but still. Our transition game was also awful. We need a good puck mover, that was Sullivan's #1 priority at the trade deadline and Hextall didn't comply.


    Well Hextall is bad at his job, no argument there.

    The Pens were extremely unlucky last year. They ranked 21st in goals for and 3rd in expected for.
    https://moneypuck.com/teams.htm

    In terms of securing a lead, they didn't have a good defensive group of forwards. The 4th line should be that here. Also, all lines have someone who is at least ok defensively. That should solve most of their woes.
    Jun. 17, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    Well Hextall is bad at his job, no argument there.

    The Pens were extremely unlucky last year. They ranked 21st in goals for and 3rd in expected for.
    https://moneypuck.com/teams.htm

    In terms of securing a lead, they didn't have a good defensive group of forwards. The 4th line should be that here. Also, all lines have someone who is at least ok defensively. That should solve most of their woes.


    But it's still the D's responsibility to protect the net and not leave guys wide open in front. That's largely why Hextall acquired Petry and Rutta but they didn't do a good job. I'd replace Rutta with a bigger guy who can do that and then one of POJ or Petry with a better puck mover. Seriously would consider moving the 1st for Hanfin because a stay at home D to protect the net could be found in free agency, but a good puck mover like Orlov would cost way way too much.
     
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