Sens got a Dubois situation

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Created by: JeffGorton

Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 14, 2023

Published: Apr. 14, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

OTT

Zadina, Filip
2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

DET

DeBrincat, Alex

Additional Details:

Cat goes back to his home state. Wings have the cap and the Sens get a 1st and former top #6 pick back.

They arent getting the same value they traded for him. #7 pick this draft is worth way more than last years

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $500,000
Dion Phaneuf: $354,167

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
26	$82,500,000	$76,829,881	$0	$4,065,000	$5,670,119

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 6	Gambrell, Dylan $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 1	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 3
	Pinto, Shane $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) C RFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Stützle, Tim $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Watson, Austin $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Sokolov, Egor $818,333$818,333 ($15,000$15K) LW RFA - 1	Kastelic, Mark $821,667$821,667 C, RW RFA - 1	Gauthier, Julien $800,000$800,000 RW UFA - 1
	Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 2	Zadina, Filip $1,825,000$1,825,000 RW, LW RFA - 3
	Brown, Patrick $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
	Brassard, Derick $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 6	Hamonic, Travis $3,000,000$3,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Talbot, Cam $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 1
Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Zub, Artem $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Søgaard, Mads $925,000$925,000 G RFA - 2
Holden, Nick $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Guénette, Maxence $813,333$813,333 RD RFA - 2
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD UFA - 2
Kleven, Tyler $916,667$916,667 ($25,000$25K) LD RFA - 3
Brännström, Erik $900,000$900,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 8
	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 3

Apr. 14, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.

Ichbinian

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Debrincat isn't really the type of player Yzerman wants (aside from goal scoring prowess).

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.

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Deal

Apr. 14, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.

csick

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I don’t think the Sens would go for this .

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.

MoreHitzSeider

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think the Sens would go for this .

Chiarelli would.

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.

IconicHawk

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Laughs in Chicago

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:00 p.m.

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Quoting: Ichbinian

Debrincat isn't really the type of player Yzerman wants (aside from goal scoring prowess).

Who doesnt want an elite goal scorer?

Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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Pretty reasonable

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.

csick

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Remove the 2nd and Zadina and add Mazur and I’d do it

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Remove the 2nd and Zadina and add Mazur and I’d do it

Yeah you would but Yzerman wouldn't. Mazur + '23 1st (NYI) for DeBrincat and the keys to Parliament Hill and maybe Yzerman accepts lol.

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Yeah I take this.

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

Remove the 2nd and Zadina and add Mazur and I’d do it

Keep Cat. We'll keep Mazur.

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:22 p.m.

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aedoran

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Quoting: Ichbinian

Debrincat isn't really the type of player Yzerman wants (aside from goal scoring prowess).

For the right price i think Yzerman would be all over this.

Quoting: csick

Remove the 2nd and Zadina and add Mazur and I’d do it

Now at that price Detroit declines.

Is there common ground in between the 2 offers?

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:22 p.m.

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The issue with Cat is that his biggest thing is scoring goals as he doesn't add much help elsewhere. So, in a down year at scoring goals (not the 40 goal scorer he's now being compared at), he isn't going to get the same value as last year... But in extension talks, he and his agent will obviously ask for more than what his worth from his production last season. This isn't the season Dorion hoped for and the summer of Dorion hasn't gone as planned...

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

For the right price i think Yzerman would be all over this.

Now at that price Detroit declines.

Is there common ground in between the 2 offers?

I don’t think so. The Sens want to make the playoffs next year and also be set up longterm. Trading cat for a mid 1st and a bottom 6 guy doesn’t really do anything . They need to fill 2 holes

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.

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for Det to get cat from OTT it will cost DET 2023 1st+, no way a team is trading a 40 goal scorer, in division for pennies on the dollar.

Apr. 14, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I don’t think so. The Sens want to make the playoffs next year and also be set up longterm. Trading cat for a mid 1st and a bottom 6 guy doesn’t really do anything . They need to fill 2 holes

I agree the offer in this ACGM isn't going to get it done. I was saying is there common ground say half way between your offer and this offer listed above.

Apr. 14, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.

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Isles 1st , Perron + a mid pick or B prospect.

Apr. 14, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.

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Quoting: Fergy22

Isles 1st , Perron + a mid pick or B prospect.

I’d rather a 2nd over a B prospect. For it to be worth it , it has to be someone a bit better like a Mazur

Apr. 14, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I’d rather a 2nd over a B prospect. For it to be worth it , it has to be someone a bit better like a Mazur

1ST , 2ND and Perron seems like overpayment IMO.

Apr. 14, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

I’d rather a 2nd over a B prospect. For it to be worth it , it has to be someone a bit better like a Mazur

How about Sebrango/Hanas and the NYI 1st?

Apr. 14, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.

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Quoting: CoachCoach

How about Sebrango/Hanas and the NYI 1st?

The problem is no trade like that makes the Sens better in the next 4 years

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Apr. 14, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

My sentiments exactly.

Apr. 14, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.

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Quoting: CoachCoach

How about Sebrango/Hanas and the NYI 1st?

Probably the best offer they get, but not what Ottawa wants. Problem is the qualifying offer of 9 million I think, plus whatever Cat wants in his next deal.

Apr. 14, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.

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Quoting: csick

The problem is no trade like that makes the Sens better in the next 4 years

That's fair, I was just thinking Hanas as the middle ground in-between since he looked very solid as a prospect this season. Sebrango as a LHD prospect which is excess. I agree that offer would most likely be beaten out.

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