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Summer moves or not

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 11, 2023
Published: Mar. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Only to see what WIN could get back to trade Dubois out in order to close the file and move on from the controversy and get some good compensation for him.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$850,000
3$850,000
3$850,000
3$850,000
2$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
7$7,750,000
3$3,500,000
3$950,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
FirstRound, Firstpick
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Win acquire a third centerman for depth, a fourth liner and a good prospect plus two first picks including a good one for 2023.
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Leskinen, Otto [RFA Rights]
  3. Pezzetta, Michael [RFA Rights]
  4. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Retain 1.5M$/2yrs to give cap space for Win to play for a UFA to replace Dubois plus 2x 1st round picks
*2025 pick protected top 5; if so then WIN get Habs 2025 2nd round pick and Habs 1st rounder in 2026 unprotected
2.
MTL
    Anywhere for anything
    ARI
    1. Hoffman, Mike ($2,250,000 retained)
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the CGY
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    2024
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the COL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the EDM
    2025
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    Logo of the MTL
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$71,644,999$1,170,000$4,195,000$11,855,001
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,750,000$7,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    C
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    FirstRound, Firstpick
    $950,000$950,000
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,362,500$3,362,500
    C, RW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,925,000$1,925,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
    LD/RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $828,333$828,333
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $766,667$766,667
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $762,500$762,500
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Mar. 11, 2023 at 3:52 p.m.
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    https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq

    Oilers decline. You might want to read up on how LTIR works.
    Mar. 11, 2023 at 3:56 p.m.
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    Easy no for Winnipeg. They're not taking on a bad contract or waiting 3 years for one of the only two pieces that have value to Winnipeg.
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    Mar. 11, 2023 at 4:06 p.m.
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    The oilers trade is not a thing
    Mar. 11, 2023 at 4:08 p.m.
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    Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
    The oilers trade is not a thing


    Done.. reverted
    Mar. 11, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.
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    Montreal is not giving up all that for PLD, we have a patientGM who has a good head on his shoulders and won't overpay for a guy that he has a good chance at signing in 1 year anyway.
    Mar. 12, 2023 at 3:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: Windjammer
    Easy no for Winnipeg. They're not taking on a bad contract or waiting 3 years for one of the only two pieces that have value to Winnipeg.


    Chances are CGY 1st is 2024. That's 1 year away from the trade. Even if it's in 2025, it's only 2 years after the trade. Conditions makes the pick more interesting in 2025.

    FLA 2023 1st would be the best piece WPG could get from any team. Anyway, it's too much for PLD. FLA 2023 1st and Beck would be enough if rumors about MTL are true.
    Mar. 12, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: LIRIK
    Chances are CGY 1st is 2024. That's 1 year away from the trade. Even if it's in 2025, it's only 2 years after the trade. Conditions makes the pick more interesting in 2025.

    FLA 2023 1st would be the best piece WPG could get from any team. Anyway, it's too much for PLD. FLA 2023 1st and Beck would be enough if rumors about MTL are true.


    Yeah Beck and the Florida 1 are a good start, but are still a good prospect short. You'd be looking at a Horvat or Meier type return to be in the running.

    As I said this offer is a no go as the only two pieces with any value to Winnipeg are the 1sts and there's no chance the Jets wait 3 drafts for one of the main pieces.
    Mar. 13, 2023 at 10:25 a.m.
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    Quoting: LIRIK
    Chances are CGY 1st is 2024. That's 1 year away from the trade. Even if it's in 2025, it's only 2 years after the trade. Conditions makes the pick more interesting in 2025.

    FLA 2023 1st would be the best piece WPG could get from any team. Anyway, it's too much for PLD. FLA 2023 1st and Beck would be enough if rumors about MTL are true.


    Would hope so. But everytime someon makes that type of deal on this site, the WIN fans go nuts and tells us off thinking they will keep him for the next 50 yrs. ubois has repeated that he won't sign long term with WIN, so on that end, why would WIN want to keep trying to keep him around while he's got high value? Best time to trade out a player who wants out is while they are hot. The problem with Dubois is that he specifically indicated that he wants to play home in MTL (which is amazing given 99% of the QC native players know they'll be criticized, harassed and dumped on if they don't live up to the expectations, just ask Drouin who is in fact a great passer but you know.. Some think he should be putting up 40 goals, 70 assists per year.. Which is not his style).

    So if Dubois is actually being shopped around, the team that will get him may want to pay less given they may lose him in a year or so if he doesn't agree to long term right off the bat. So, being fair market, you give WIN a high price that would be dealt normally by other teams, and the WIN fans will not come here and crap all over the platform.

    I also think the 2023 is pick by CAL should be enough with a good enough prospect. I'd try to keep Beck though.. He could round up the lines in a few years.
     
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