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Created by: MoForNorris

Team: 2022-23 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 2, 2023

Published: Mar. 2, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Don't think many people know the direction this team is going in, with how the east playoffs are going to be then I think building for a year or two more is the way they're going. Yzerman has said if he trades for someone then they would want them to be younger and long term assets. That being said Edvinsson won't be called up for any more than 9 games this season, defense core needs editing, same for forward core, and Chiarot could also be moved out this offseason with a sweetener. So here is some stuff what I think that Detroit could look at, and what the roster could look like.

Trades

DET

2023 7th round pick (NYR)
2024 4th round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

Most likely Talbot gets traded away to a new team, they could use Ned the Senators for the next couple seasons. He's 27 and needs a new destination, this is where I think it is. Won't be like what they sent for him. Depends on really how much Yzerman could sell him to the Sens. Late 4th and late 7th, could be a 5th instead of a 4th.

OTT

Nedeljkovic, Alex

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Not much needed to be said here, Wings mistreated Ned in my opinion. They also seem to like Helberg unfortunately, so no spot for him in NHL. Expiring UFA and will likely leave, get what you can get.

DET

Fabbro, Dante
2023 5th round pick (TBL)

Additional Details:

From the Predators point, having just added Cal Foote, they could be favoring him over Fabbro. They would also receive a decent young bottom pairing defensemen in Gustav Lindstrom. They also get a second back, could be more.

NSH

Lindström, Gustav
2023 2nd round pick (STL)

Additional Details:

Wings traded Hronek and need a replacement for him. Fabbro could be that guy for Detroit that could fit well. Unfortunately you lose a bottom pairing guy that's 24. Believe this trade helps both sides.

DET

2023 4th round pick (CAR)
2024 2nd round pick (PHI)

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Return is a spare second of the Hurricanes and their 4th this year. Wings traded their 4th this year and could look to get one in this draft.

CAR

Vrána, Jakub ($2,625,000 retained)

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This would be the last spot for the Wings to retain salary, and similar to the Ned case with mistreating him. Elliot Freedman also stated that him coming up is "100% a showcase" which probably was. Retaining salary is the move that adds a fourth, don't think the Hurricanes would be willing to trade their first. Other teams like Toronto and Edmonton could be in on him.

DET

Yamamoto, Kailer
2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 6th round pick (NSH)

Additional Details:

Either Yamamoto or Foegle will leave in this trade, leaning towards Yamamoto here. Looking to trade second round pick and could be option for Detroit, don't think they're going to be willing to trade their firsts in 2024 or 2025. Could see prospect coming in too.

EDM

Additional Details:

Could be a separate trade, the Wings aren't going to push for playoffs with Perron here and Zadina needs a change of scenery. Ken Holland has an interest that's known of for Zadina, Perron I think Oilers fans would like and could legit be interested in.

DET

2024 5th round pick (FLA)

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Not big return and could be useful for someone that can come into the lineup and play well on a bottom pairing.

FLA

Hägg, Robert

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Nothing special here, see him leaving in spot for someone else.

DET

Holl, Justin
2025 5th round pick (CHI)

Additional Details:

NTC but I think he'll be the odd man out in Toronto and useful to the Wings bottom pairing. The Leafs have no leverage though because they have to move a defensemen.

TOR

2023 7th round pick (NYR)

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Any team I would say has the leverage in a trade with Toronto like this. But still Leafs could move him in another deal elsewhere but I think could be good for the bottom pairing on the right side.

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $2,305,556
Frans Nielsen: $500,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Richard Pánik: $1,375,000 (50%)
Tyler Bertuzzi: $2,375,000 (50%)
Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (100%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$64,753,889	$0	$3,857,500	$17,746,111

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 2	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NTC UFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 3	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 2
Söderblom, Elmer $878,333$878,333 ($82,500$82K) LW, C RFA - 3	Suter, Pius $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Erne, Adam $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Veleno, Joseph $894,167$894,167 ($425,000$425K) C RFA - 1	Yamamoto, Kailer $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW UFA - 2
	Czarnik, Austin $762,500$762,500 C, RW UFA - 2	Sundqvist, Oskar $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C UFA - 1
		Luff, Matt $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Walman, Jake $1,050,000$1,050,000 LD UFA - 1	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 2	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Fabbro, Dante $2,400,000$2,400,000 RD UFA - 1	Hellberg, Magnus $750,000$750,000 G UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Oesterle, Jordan $1,350,000$1,350,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Pysyk, Mark $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Berggren, J.		Larkin, D.		Raymond, L.
	Fabbri, R.		Seider, M.

Power Play 2
Söderblom, E.		Copp, A.		Kubalik, D.
	Walman, J.		Yamamoto, K.

Penalty Kill 1
	Larkin, D.	Suter, P.
	Walman, J.	Seider, M.

Penalty Kill 2
	Fabbri, R.	Copp, A.
	Määttä, O.	Holl, J.

Mar. 2, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.

MorHitzSeider

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Perron won't be traded until next year's trade deadline.

Mar. 2, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.

M0LSON

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ottawa had a chance to claim him off waivers and didnt so i dont see them making this deal ..possibly sign him off season?

Mar. 2, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.

RC_82

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If Engvall gives the leafs a 3rd, a RHD in Holl in this league returns you at min a 5th

Mar. 2, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.

Ennis

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Trading Hronek never made sense to me. Maybe he figured this was a career year that wouldn't be replicated? I don't know, makes no sense to me, unless the picks he got are flipped fora RHD.

Mar. 2, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.

Jfstompers

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I think it's pretty obvious the direction we're going. He signed Larkin quickly after slow playing it all season then has started to dismantle everything he had to put the rebuild down the road. You don't trade pieces like Hronek if you're looking to compete now. We're going to see him move everything not nailed down now and it's back to signing vets to two year deals to plug holes as we use all those picks. We punted on a great draft class to try to compete and now we're gonna pay for it.

Mar. 2, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.

kster34

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Your logic escapes me; the Leafs are cap compliant carrying 9 dmen. So no way Leafs pay to move a dman - they can just send any of them to the minors & risk waiver wire rather than spending an asset. SMH

Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.

MoForNorris

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Quoting: Jfstompers

Would love to see Detroit get another 1st rounder this year but don't see anyone getting one for them unless it's a packaged deal with another player that gets it to be a first. This years draft class is a big W

Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.

MoForNorris

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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer

Trading Hronek never made sense to me. Maybe he figured this was a career year that wouldn't be replicated? I don't know, makes no sense to me, unless the picks he got are flipped fora RHD.

Would of thought We'd maybe be in on Chycrun, obviously not the case. Thinking the return from the Canucks who are rebuilding was a rather good one and hard to pass on. But see a spare second or two being moved for a new RD. Edvinsson think would be their partner next season too.

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Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.

MoForNorris

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Quoting: RC_82

If Engvall gives the leafs a 3rd, a RHD in Holl in this league returns you at min a 5th

still don't understand how the leafs got a third for him, honestly bad management from the isles there

Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.

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MoForNorris

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Quoting: M0LSON

ottawa had a chance to claim him off waivers and didnt so i dont see them making this deal ..possibly sign him off season?

I see him being a senator, not sure when but wings will want something for him. I'm just not sure what it'll be

Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.

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MoForNorris

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Quoting: MorHitzSeider

Perron won't be traded until next year's trade deadline.

We agree he'll be traded within a years frame at least, first time for anything. But I think teams will be interested this season since he has a year left after this

Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.

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MoForNorris

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Quoting: kster34

Cap space and activating Murray is why I'm thinking it since it gives them more breathing room especially if someone doesn't get claimed and face a buried penalty

Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.

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Ottawa isn't trading Talbot this year. And idk why they'd want Nedeljkovic

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Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.

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RC_82

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Quoting: MoForNorris

Cap space and activating Murray is why I'm thinking it since it gives them more breathing room especially if someone doesn't get claimed and face a buried penalty

As of right now, Leafs are cap compliant activating Murray and can sign Knies. If anything, Holl is being included in a cap dump for a top 6 forward retained. Who that is? no idea.

idk why you think they don't have leverage

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Mar. 2, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.

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Jwilliams2k12

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Preds take this deal.

Mar. 2, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.

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Jfstompers

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Quoting: MoForNorris

This year's draft is a big win if you pick 4th or 11th the top of the draft even to like 15 is great, if your picking mid to late 20s it's the same as every other draft.

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