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Only way I see CGY paying a 2nd for Kerfoot is if he comes 50% retained, so if TOR can find and pay a 3rd Team to retain, we'd likely be all over it

Oct. 20, 2022 at 2:52 p.m.

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Quoting: claytron8000

Calgary doesn't need Kerfoot

Would be much better to have Kerfoot at 3LW than Lewis at 3RW, just need his Cap Hit retained & sliced down to 25-50% of his $3.5mil Cap Hit is all

Oct. 20, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.

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Quoting: claytron8000

Calgary doesn't need Kerfoot, and there probably isn't a team in the league paying a 2nd for him.

Calgary 100% has an open spot in their top 9. Kerfoot would fill that spot quite nicely. I do think target number one for Calgary should be Patrick Kane. But Kerfoot would be a much cheaper option. Calgary has the most complete team in the league in my mind. If they can upgrade that 1 top 9 forward spot, they will be a true cup contender (I think they are regardless but it would help).

At or around the deadline, a guy like Kerfoot could fetch a 2nd round pick EASY at minimum.

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Oct. 20, 2022 at 2:53 p.m.

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Matt Roy is not available. Not even for Chychrun.

Oct. 20, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Matt Roy is not available. Not even for Chychrun.

LA fan's have told me many times "Matt Roy is not available, UNLESS it's for a young top 4 left D". I guess not all fans agree on this.

If I am LA I am keeping Durzi and Brandt over Roy, due to their age and years of control and their potential. Doughty is untradeable at his contract. They have the deepest organizational right D in the league. Potential even after trading Roy.

Oct. 20, 2022 at 2:59 p.m.

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Only way I see CGY paying a 2nd for Kerfoot is if he comes 50% retained, so if TOR can find and pay a 3rd Team to retain, we'd likely be all over it

at or around the Deadline, Calgary should be able to absorb Kerfoots entire cap without the retention. IF you want the retention done by a 3rd team I think Calagary has to throw in a 4th round pick to that team.

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

LA is not trading any of Doughty, Roy, or Clarke. Every other RHD is available, including Walker, Durzi, Spence, and Grans. None of these guys bring what Roy does.

If you think Durzi is an upgrade over Roy, then I'd propose sending him back to Toronto instead of Roy. But you wouldn't do that, right? Because Durzi doesn't bring what Roy does, and that's what Toronto needs. LA needs that too, hence why they won't move him.

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.

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Seems like a waste extending Horvat....even it was possible. Cap really doesn't work in 23/24 if Bunting, Kempf, maybe Engvall are too extending. And the big hope Muzzin LTIRed also

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:05 p.m.

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

We'll see if he can perform as well as he did last year. Being a contract year for him, he should do well and we did pay a 2nd + 3rd + 7th for Jarnkrok, but that was to get him down to $1mil and I think we expected him to make a much bigger impact with us than he did and re-sign for a Team Friendly deal, but neither of those 2 things happened.

I say either a 2nd and TOR pays for the retention OR CGY offers a 3rd and pays the 3rd & possibly 4th Team for retention themselves

Semantics, but other than wishing Kerfoot was Bigger and Better at Faceoffs, I think he'd be a good fit on the Flames with Backlund & Coleman

CGY likely has other plans for that Deadline Cap Space, hopefully that being of the Patrick Kane variety

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:07 p.m.

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

I never said Durzi was an upgrade over Roy. I said I would keep Durzi over Roy based on his age, years of control and potential. And you are right, I targeted Roy specifically for what he brings. So I get what you are saying.

So what would be a perfect Chychrun trade in your mind?

Chychrun to LA
Durzi, 2023 1st, 2024 3rd, Turcotte to Arizona?

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:10 p.m.

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Yes for sure! Patrick Kane to Calgary seems like a perfect fit in my mind. If I were Calgary GM, I wouldn't touch their defense at all and I would try and trade picks and prospects for Kane.

Calgary already has a big team, so getting Kerfoot or Kane (clearly different tiers of players but on the smaller side), would be perfectly fine. The Leafs are lacking in the size, physicality side of things, so I would target bigger guys for them and hence me moving out Kerfoot and not going for Kane.

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Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

I don't like Chychrun as much as everyone else does, so I wouldn't give up a haul like that.

I'd do a 2023 1st + Turcotte + Walker
or
2023 1st + Durzi + one of Madden or Thomas

If that's not enough, then someone else can have him.

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:18 p.m.

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LA isn't dealing Roy.

And Engval-Niemela+2024 1st round pick doesn't get you a sign and trade Bo Horvat. The 2024 1st round pick needs to be the 2023 1st round pick. Anyteam that was going after Bo Horvat would easily blow away your offer for him.

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Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:28 p.m.

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and how do we afford his extension next year? trade makes 0 sense

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:29 p.m.

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Edited Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:45 p.m.

Quoting: KingofRnR

Only way I see CGY paying a 2nd for Kerfoot is if he comes 50% retained, so if TOR can find and pay a 3rd Team to retain, we'd likely be all over it

toronto can easily get that done. kerfoot is only owed 700k salary, so 1.75M ( 50%) is only 350k, that gets done for a 4th, by either buffalo or arizona. toronto would love to get a second imo, dubas likes to draft

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Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:32 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Only way I see CGY paying a 2nd for Kerfoot is if he comes 50% retained, so if TOR can find and pay a 3rd Team to retain, we'd likely be all over it

Toronto only has 700k left to pay kerfoot so it's not alot

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:35 p.m.

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Quoting: jake4leafs

toronto can easily get that done. kerfoot is only owed 750k salary, so 1.75M ( 50%) is only 350k, that gets done for a 4th, by either buffalo or arizona. toronto would love to get a second imo, dubas likes to draft

You might want to try that math again there, bud.

Oct. 20, 2022 at 3:43 p.m.

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