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Created by: mac11_716
Team: 2022-23 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2022
Published: May 19, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Just having some fun. The guys at Expected Buffalo are credited for the parameters to trade for PLD
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,500,000
4$3,250,000
2$1,000,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$11,250,000
1$9,000,000
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. 2022 1st round pick (VGK)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (BUF)
2.
BUF
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BUF)
3.
BUF
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (NSH)
NSH
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni ($2,500,000 retained)
4.
BUF
  1. Crouse, Lawson [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (NYI)
ARI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (NSH)
5.
BUF
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Olofsson, Victor [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the BUF
2023
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
2024
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$74,985,000$0$3,120,000$6,515,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
$7,500,000$7,500,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$825,000$825,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$9,000,000$9,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$11,250,000$11,250,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$950,000$950,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 19, 2022 at 10:15 a.m.
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Easy no from the Jets. Add some more quality in there and try to keep it to at most 3 pieces.
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May 19, 2022 at 10:16 a.m.
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i really like this one, you need another defenseman though and crouse is more of a third liner
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May 19, 2022 at 10:28 a.m.
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You can tell the PLD offer is from a Buffalo fan podcast. It's fantastic for Buffalo and absolutely horrid for Winnipeg.
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May 19, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.
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The guys at Expected Buffalo don't know what they are talking about. Elliotte Friedman on Pierre-Luc Dubois’ future: "I don't think Pierre-Luc Dubois wants to be traded or anything like that. I don't think the Winnipeg Jets are looking to trade Pierre-Luc Dubois."
May 19, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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For all Buffalo fans, even if PLD was available, Johnson is useless to the Jets as we have so many LD and Middlestat has badstats, not middle, heck Duby had 9 more goals than Casey had in points
May 19, 2022 at 10:36 a.m.
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Why does every Sabres AGM have them playing middleman in a Dadonov to the Preds trade? If NSH wants him, they can just deal with VGK directly. They don't need to pay BUF to retain.
May 19, 2022 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
Why does every Sabres AGM have them playing middleman in a Dadonov to the Preds trade? If NSH wants him, they can just deal with VGK directly. They don't need to pay BUF to retain.

I see Buffalo being willing to play middleman in a deal with Colorado getting Dadonov half retained. Colorado is losing at least two out of three of Kadri, Burakovsky, and Nichushkin. He may not want to waive to come here but if the arrangement with Colorado is known he probably would be OK with going there, especially if he gets to inflate his numbers on the one year contract and then earn a new deal.
May 19, 2022 at 11:36 a.m.
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Like the Crouse trade, kid just popped 20 goals this year, add a little grit to the left side and could mesh very nicely here.
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May 19, 2022 at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
You can tell the PLD offer is from a Buffalo fan podcast. It's fantastic for Buffalo and absolutely horrid for Winnipeg.


I wouldn't do the trade, he's a good player but Tage Thompson just had a better year than Dubious ever has. I would use the assets somewhere else.
May 19, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
The guys at Expected Buffalo don't know what they are talking about. Elliotte Friedman on Pierre-Luc Dubois’ future: "I don't think Pierre-Luc Dubois wants to be traded or anything like that. I don't think the Winnipeg Jets are looking to trade Pierre-Luc Dubois."


Or maybe you don't know what you're talking about. He also said they may look to deal him if they can't get a long term deal done as he is UFA eligible in 2 years
May 19, 2022 at 2:03 p.m.
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Quoting: nhldeadline2
Or maybe you don't know what you're talking about. He also said they may look to deal him if they can't get a long term deal done as he is UFA eligible in 2 years


Not being actively shopped. Its the offseason content creation season, got to get those numbers up.
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May 19, 2022 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
Not being actively shopped. Its the offseason content creation season, got to get those numbers up.


Yeah that's fair, but you've been basically quoting part of what Friedman said as gospel to discredit trade offers for PLD. If WPG can only sign PLD for one or two years, wouldn't you rather trade him?
May 19, 2022 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: nhldeadline2
Yeah that's fair, but you've been basically quoting part of what Friedman said as gospel to discredit trade offers for PLD. If WPG can only sign PLD for one or two years, wouldn't you rather trade him?


I am using it to discredit comments who are saying that PLD is being shopped. There is a long way to go before he is shopped. Cheveldayoff's pattern is to not trade until late into the process or when it is needed (translation: when things are fractured) -- just before the last year of the deal or TDL and not two years before.
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May 19, 2022 at 2:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
I am using it to discredit comments who are saying that PLD is being shopped. There is a long way to go before he is shopped. Cheveldayoff's pattern is to not trade until late into the process or when it is needed (translation: when things are fractured) -- just before the last year of the deal or TDL and not two years before.


Fair enough. His value is much higher as a RFA than on an expiring contract though, so that's why fans want to trade for him now
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May 19, 2022 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: nhldeadline2
Fair enough. His value is much higher as a RFA than on an expiring contract though, so that's why fans want to trade for him now


I agree that Dubois is way more valuable as a trade chip the more RFA years he has and the fan interest makes perfect sense.

In my view the steps that need to happen:
1. Hire a coach
2. Make a decision on Scheifele which will probably involve the new coach
3. If Scheifele is moved this offseason, Jets will overpay Dubois
-or-
3. If Scheifele isn't moved this offseason:
3.1. If Dubois wants to sign long term, no problem and then speculation goes to Scheifele's next contract
3.2. If Dubois doesn't want sign medium- or long-term, then he'll get a 1yr deal (or arb award) and the speculation shifts to what happens in the 2023 offseason.
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May 19, 2022 at 9:04 p.m.
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Quoting: dickie_boon
i really like this one, you need another defenseman though and crouse is more of a third liner


Good catch on the additional defenseman. I originally had Johnson and then traded him so that is where I may have missed it.

I agree Crouse is a third-liner, so I am thinking they just roll with four lines or when one of the vet wingers leaves in coming seasons, Crouse gets moved up. I think he is the perfect blend of size and scoring but won't need a ton of minutes/money.
May 19, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Canoehead
The guys at Expected Buffalo don't know what they are talking about. Elliotte Friedman on Pierre-Luc Dubois’ future: "I don't think Pierre-Luc Dubois wants to be traded or anything like that. I don't think the Winnipeg Jets are looking to trade Pierre-Luc Dubois."


They pretty much went off that Friedman sound as well and they through out the hypothetical and said that it may take Cozens or Krebs to get it done, which in that case I don't think Buffalo says yes. FWIW I don't think that Winnipeg would say yes to what I put together above either, I just thought I would give it a whirl to see what it would look like.
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