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Penguins Trade Maybe with CBOs

Created by: PakNation7
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2020
Published: Apr. 25, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Johnson is CBOed by the Leafs. Pittsburgh can then use their CBO on the longterm aging contact of Hornqvist or the oft-injured Bjugstad.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
2$750,000
2$750,000
2$775,000
2$1,400,000
2$1,400,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
6$4,000,000
1$1,200,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Maniscalco, Joshua
3$925,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Blueger, Teddy
  2. Johnson, Jack
  3. Simon, Dominik [RFA Rights]
  4. 2021 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,674,783$0$0$825,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 4
$950,000$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$1,200,000$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1

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Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:16 p.m.
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Can I have an explanation on why Pittsburgh can't cbo them with their own cbo?
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Can I have an explanation on why Pittsburgh can't cbo them with their own cbo?


I think its so they can CBO another player on their team or something. Overall the trade does have potential but I am unsure the leafs would get a 1st pick out of it
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:22 p.m.
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I rather have Engvall then Blueger at 3c
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I think its so they can CBO another player on their team or something. Overall the trade does have potential but I am unsure the leafs would get a 1st pick out of it


Yes, essentially the Penguins get to use two compliance buyouts which would open up ample cap space to resign Murray, Jarry and McCann.

Yeah I was unsure of the picks to use in the trade because the Leafs need some compensation for taking on Johnson as their CBO but at the same time I see Johnsson+Kerfoot > Simon+Blueger, the Leafs just need to cut cap without getting too much worst.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:29 p.m.
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Basically your one sided deal wants good players who are on league minimal deals, and a 1st for your cap dump of 7 million to take a 3.25 million CBO.

Yeah penguins decline that easily.'
Blueger is a better player than kerfoot.
JJ doesn't cost a 1st to move. Don't even aruge either. Same people who think that thought it would cost a 1st to move Gudbranson who they got a pick for.
hell the penguins moved 2 bad defensemen last year and got assets in return. If they want to move JJ they will move him for much cheaper. Defense is still in demand.
On top of it, this team has no place for Johnsson. Their LW is stacked. Jake, Zucker, McCann.
This team has no need for 3.4 million for Johnsson.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeytor15
I rather have Engvall then Blueger at 3c


Maybe, but I see Engvall as a better fit on the wing. Blueger is a better faceoff man (if only slightly) and is much more physical. Plus, Blueger. starts the majority of his shifts in the defensive zone.
Apr. 25, 2020 at 10:34 p.m.
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Any way to sub out blueger for someone else, he's not really a 3C, and was on the pens most consistent and best shutdown line this year
Apr. 25, 2020 at 11:06 p.m.
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Basically your one sided deal wants good players who are on league minimal deals, and a 1st for your cap dump of 7 million to take a 3.25 million CBO.

Yeah penguins decline that easily.'
Blueger is a better player than kerfoot.
JJ doesn't cost a 1st to move. Don't even aruge either. Same people who think that thought it would cost a 1st to move Gudbranson who they got a pick for.
hell the penguins moved 2 bad defensemen last year and got assets in return. If they want to move JJ they will move him for much cheaper. Defense is still in demand.
On top of it, this team has no place for Johnsson. Their LW is stacked. Jake, Zucker, McCann.
This team has no need for 3.4 million for Johnsson.


Can hardly consider Johnsson and Kerfoot cap dumps, never heard of serviceable 3.5 million dollar middle 6 mid 20's cap dumps
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Apr. 26, 2020 at 12:53 a.m.
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Basically your one sided deal wants good players who are on league minimal deals, and a 1st for your cap dump of 7 million to take a 3.25 million CBO.

Yeah penguins decline that easily.'
Blueger is a better player than kerfoot.
JJ doesn't cost a 1st to move. Don't even aruge either. Same people who think that thought it would cost a 1st to move Gudbranson who they got a pick for.
hell the penguins moved 2 bad defensemen last year and got assets in return. If they want to move JJ they will move him for much cheaper. Defense is still in demand.
On top of it, this team has no place for Johnsson. Their LW is stacked. Jake, Zucker, McCann.
This team has no need for 3.4 million for Johnsson.


JJ still sucks. he may not cost a first to move now because of a CBO, so theres no point in pens paying the leafs to buy him out. this trade has potential though. I really like the idea of Kap in pit instead of Johnnson because as you said the left wing is already very solid.

Zucker-Crosby-Kap
Jake-Geno-Rust
McCann-kerfoot-Hornqvist

thats a very intriguing top 9.
Apr. 26, 2020 at 1:04 a.m.
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JJ still sucks. he may not cost a first to move now because of a CBO, so theres no point in pens paying the leafs to buy him out. this trade has potential though. I really like the idea of Kap in pit instead of Johnnson because as you said the left wing is already very solid.

Zucker-Crosby-Kap
Jake-Geno-Rust
McCann-kerfoot-Hornqvist

thats a very intriguing top 9.


I feel like if the Leafs were to move Kapanen they would 100% want a 1st in the deal tho. The Leafs are really high on Kap. Zucker has played on the right before so I don’t see why acquiring Johnsson would be so bad for the Penguins. Zucker was on the right just before the season stopped with Sheary on the left. A top 9 of;
Guentzel-Crosby-Zucker
Johnsson-Malkin-Rust
McCann-Kerfoot-Hornqvist is just as good in my opinion.

I feel if the Leafs are to move Kap it would be for a top 4 RHD not in this type of trade.
Apr. 26, 2020 at 1:29 a.m.
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JJ still sucks. he may not cost a first to move now because of a CBO, so theres no point in pens paying the leafs to buy him out. this trade has potential though. I really like the idea of Kap in pit instead of Johnnson because as you said the left wing is already very solid.

Zucker-Crosby-Kap
Jake-Geno-Rust
McCann-kerfoot-Hornqvist

thats a very intriguing top 9.


no matter how you flip it, it's a bad trade for the penguins.
They are already tight against the cap. This asks them to take on 7 million in cap space giving up only 3.25 and on top of it, they lose a league min player in blueger who fills a role.
It's a horrible deal.
They don't need Kerfoot. The only way him coming to the penguins makes any sense is if jugs is already out the door. And in that sense, they wouldn't want to move Blueger to begin with.
It's a 1 sided cap dump trade. Even if you think Kap would be interesting. Truth is, I'm not sold on Kap. He's the 3rd wheel on his line making 3 million+.
He has speed but no real shot. He has no accuracy at all.
While the penguins do need a RW, the cost on this trade isn't worth it.
This is what this trade is.
JJ Simon and a 1st for Johnsson. Lets be real, Johnsson is a cap dump for TOR just like JJ is for PIT. Why are the penguins giving up a 1st here? Even if you make that Kap it's still a bad deal. Kap isn't worth a 1st.
Kerfoot for Blueger. The penguins lose that. Blueger is a better player on a cheaper contract.

I think a more reasonable move would be JJ Simon and a 2nd for Kap. The cost to dump JJ is Simon, and Kap for a 2nd is fair value.
TOR gets cap relief just like the penguins and Simon to have a decent NHL quality forward on the cheap which helps their cap.
 
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