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Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2019
Published: Aug. 6, 2019
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Free Agent Signings
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8$8,400,000
7$7,500,000
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  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]
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2020
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23$81,500,000$76,634,761$0$3,532,500$4,865,239
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
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UFA - 2
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 4
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$8,400,000$8,400,000
RW, C
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
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UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
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UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA - 1
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$735,000$735,000
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UFA - 1

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Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:35 p.m.
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thats not enough for tkachuk
Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:36 p.m.
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But I hate thachuk so much
Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:42 p.m.
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All these Avs fans trying to bite off more than they can chew... Sakic had an unreal off season and the roster is better than last season. Yeah it's "fun" to imagine but y'all don't even need Tkachuk

That's a solid contract for Rantanen though, it'll probably be in that ballpark
Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: AdmiralNelson
All these Avs fans trying to bite off more than they can chew... Sakic had an unreal off season and the roster is better than last season. Yeah it's "fun" to imagine but y'all don't even need Tkachuk

That's a solid contract for Rantanen though, it'll probably be in that ballpark


Rantanen will make roughly the same as Marner and on the same contract lengt. for 8 years that is quite low
Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Rantanen will make roughly the same as Marner and on the same contract lengt. for 8 years that is quite low


Is it though? 4 more years of RFA and 4 of UFA, 8.4 is a great deal for a young player... it's the fault of GMs who give out 11.6, 10, and so on for kids coming out of their elc's
Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:55 p.m.
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Is it though? 4 more years of RFA and 4 of UFA, 8.4 is a great deal for a young player... it's the fault of GMs who give out 11.6, 10, and so on for kids coming out of their elc's


Rantanen will get roughly around 9.5
Aug. 6, 2019 at 5:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Rantanen will get roughly around 9.5


Saw a report on TSN about how UFA's asking prices are relative to the best contract/ player on their team. In the Avs case that is MacKinnon, a top 5 player in the league, on an absolute bargain of a deal. I can't see Mikko getting more than 9/yr.

The reason Marner's asking price is so high is because Dubas dumped 25% of his cap into JT and 34 at over $11m each
Aug. 6, 2019 at 6:01 p.m.
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Saw a report on TSN about how UFA's asking prices are relative to the best contract/ player on their team. In the Avs case that is MacKinnon, a top 5 player in the league, on an absolute bargain of a deal. I can't see Mikko getting more than 9/yr.


I'd be happy with a 8 year deal around aho money
Aug. 6, 2019 at 6:08 p.m.
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Quoting: AdmiralNelson
Saw a report on TSN about how UFA's asking prices are relative to the best contract/ player on their team. In the Avs case that is MacKinnon, a top 5 player in the league, on an absolute bargain of a deal. I can't see Mikko getting more than 9/yr.

The reason Marner's asking price is so high is because Dubas dumped 25% of his cap into JT and 34 at over $11m each


There are plenty of reasons for Marner reportedly getting 8 figures, he probably won't at the end of the day and will sign for 9.75 or something. A lot of that has to do with Toronto media.

Basing Rantanen's contract off of Mackinnon's is flawed. When Nate signed he was a consistent 50-60 point player so 6.3 made sense. Mikko has played 4 seasons, 3 of which were on pace for 85pts +
Aug. 6, 2019 at 6:28 p.m.
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Your trade if Blues finish top 4:
https://imgur.com/a/bw9rMEO

Your trade if the Blues don't finish top 4:
https://imgur.com/a/uhHzeBt

My trade if Blues finish top 4
https://imgur.com/a/Fm6ykZV

My trade if Blues miss top 4:
https://imgur.com/a/nR3culX

This draft year is stacked you would be lucky to get a 1st off anyone
Aug. 6, 2019 at 6:29 p.m.
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But I hate thachuk so much


Like marchand, you hate him till he's on your team then you love him. Imagine a line of Landeskog, Kadri, and Tkachuk...
Aug. 6, 2019 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
There are plenty of reasons for Marner reportedly getting 8 figures, he probably won't at the end of the day and will sign for 9.75 or something. A lot of that has to do with Toronto media.

Basing Rantanen's contract off of Mackinnon's is flawed. When Nate signed he was a consistent 50-60 point player so 6.3 made sense. Mikko has played 4 seasons, 3 of which were on pace for 85pts +


Nate was a 50-60 point player on a dumpster fire Avs team that put up the worst record the league had seen in 20 years.

Look around, this isn't the NBA and it isn't all about money. Rantanen will take a team friendly deal on a contending Avalanche team that will see a cup within the next half decade.

But as a stand alone player, he is not worth more than Mackinnon which is why the contract value will be relative.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 7:17 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffW
Is it though? 4 more years of RFA and 4 of UFA, 8.4 is a great deal for a young player... it's the fault of GMs who give out 11.6, 10, and so on for kids coming out of their elc's


Really now?
Have you paid attention to all the ACGM's surrounding Marner's contract?
There's a line of thinking that suggests Marner and Rantanen get very similar contracts.

Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Really now?
Have you paid attention to all the ACGM's surrounding Marner's contract?
There's a line of thinking that suggests Marner and Rantanen get very similar contracts.

Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.


I just dont see it, marner is the better player by a good margin
Aug. 6, 2019 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
There are plenty of reasons for Marner reportedly getting 8 figures, he probably won't at the end of the day and will sign for 9.75 or something. A lot of that has to do with Toronto media.

Basing Rantanen's contract off of Mackinnon's is flawed. When Nate signed he was a consistent 50-60 point player so 6.3 made sense. Mikko has played 4 seasons, 3 of which were on pace for 85pts +


Mikko has only played 3 seasons, and 2 of them were PPG
Aug. 6, 2019 at 7:25 p.m.
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Quoting: oneX
Really now?
Have you paid attention to all the ACGM's surrounding Marner's contract?
There's a line of thinking that suggests Marner and Rantanen get very similar contracts.

Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.


Agcm's mean nothing to me because they are done by fans.. I've done plenty myself.. marner is asking for Matthew's money and term because he is better than him, rantanen isnt better than MacKinnon, sure MacKinnon didnt breakout until he was locked up but rantanen cant say hes 4 mill a year better than mack. Where as marner is like I've been better than Matthew's for 2 years and you just gave him 11.6 for 5 years...

P.s. that Matthew's contract is ridiculous, buys up 1 year of UFA for all that money, the point of big money contracts is to buy up multiple UFA years
Aug. 6, 2019 at 7:30 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffW
Agcm's mean nothing to me because they are done by fans.. I've done plenty myself.. marner is asking for Matthew's money and term because he is better than him, rantanen isnt better than MacKinnon, sure MacKinnon didnt breakout until he was locked up but rantanen cant say hes 4 mill a year better than mack. Where as marner is like I've been better than Matthew's for 2 years and you just gave him 11.6 for 5 years...

P.s. that Matthew's contract is ridiculous, buys up 1 year of UFA for all that money, the point of big money contracts is to buy up multiple UFA years


Marner hasnt been better than matthews so he shouldnt be asking for that much
Aug. 6, 2019 at 7:37 p.m.
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Marner hasnt been better than matthews so he shouldnt be asking for that much


Meh, That's debatable
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:05 p.m.
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Meh, That's debatable


Marner gets carried by tavares
Aug. 6, 2019 at 8:18 p.m.
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Marner gets carried by tavares


He did better with tavares, but before tavares he had kadri, still outscored Matthew's who had nylander, he also showed up.in the playoffs that year unlike matthews
 
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