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DARLING

Created by: JohnScott
Team: 2016-17 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2016
Published: Jun. 1, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The Hawks go with Darling and nab a top 10 pick in the process. They improve up the middle and strengthen the third line. Clearing some cap helps get another veteran D-man as well.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Panarin, Bonus
1$2,575,000
2$1,250,000
3$4,250,000
Trades
1.
CHI
    2016 5th round pick
    2016 7th round pick
    ARI
    1. Bickell, Bryan
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    Rights to RFA Mark McNeill
    2.
    CHI
    1. Backlund, Mikael
    Additional Details:
    2016 1st round pick (6)
    CGY
    1. Crawford, Corey
    Additional Details:
    2016 4th round pick
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    Buried
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$73,000,000$65,925,754$3,070,000$4,945,000$7,074,246
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    $812,500$812,500 (Performance Bonus$2,575,000$3M)
    LW
    UFA - 1
    $4,550,000$4,550,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $2,625,000$2,625,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    $5,275,000$5,275,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 3
    $3,575,000$3,575,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    $4,250,000$4,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    $692,500$692,500 (Performance Bonus$232,500$232K)
    LW, C, RW
    UFA - 1
    $2,775,000$2,775,000
    C
    UFA - 3
    $800,000$800,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    Panarin, Bonus
    $2,575,000$2,575,000
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $5,538,462$5,538,462
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    $6,875,000$6,875,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    $587,500$587,500
    G
    UFA - 1
    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    $825,000$825,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    $575,000$575,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    $700,000$700,000 (Performance Bonus$437,500$438K)
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Jun. 1, 2016 at 5:40 p.m.
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    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Do you really want to go with goaltending for the Hawks next year? Crawford might agree to a trade, but only to a team that will contend soon. So he wouldn't agree to that team giving up a first rounder and more to obtain him,
    Jun. 1, 2016 at 5:40 p.m.
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    You're not getting Quincey for that low and you're not getting that kind of return for crow. Maybe Backlund and a 2nd but not their first
    Jun. 1, 2016 at 5:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Do you really want to go with goaltending for the Hawks next year? Crawford might agree to a trade, but only to a team that will contend soon. So he wouldn't agree to that team giving up a first rounder and more to obtain him,


    Honestly, not really. Yeah, what teams do you think he would agree to if the Hawks decided to move him?
    Jun. 1, 2016 at 5:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: DonVito
    You're not getting Quincey for that low and you're not getting that kind of return for crow. Maybe Backlund and a 2nd but not their first


    Really? What do you believe Quincey is worth? I definitely don't believe he is anywhere around 4 mill per anymore. I agree with your take on the Crow move.
    Jun. 1, 2016 at 6:43 p.m.
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    Chicago AGM
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    Fair value for Quincey, though I wouldn't want him anyway. Also, just keep Shaw instead of getting Backlund honestly, and save money in the process. Probably just make the deal the first for Crawford.
    Jun. 1, 2016 at 8:19 p.m.
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    I would be shocked if Brouwer signed for two years to any team. He's probably looking to cash in on his playoff performance this year and wants term. He'll probably demand 4-5 years at least.

    If I were Calgary then I would trade the 6th overall pick for Corey Crawford in a heartbeat.

    For Chicago? Doesn't make sense for them, especially when they don't have anyone in their pipeline that could replace him.

    If you want to include a trade to Anaheim for someone like Anderson than I could see it making a little more sense but I highly doubt Anaheim trades Anderson to another contender in the same conference.

    Maybe trading Teuvo for Ben Bishop works for them in the short term, but yeah, trading Crawford isn't worth it for the Blackhawks.
    Jun. 1, 2016 at 9:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: timetosaygoodbye
    I would be shocked if Brouwer signed for two years to any team. He's probably looking to cash in on his playoff performance this year and wants term. He'll probably demand 4-5 years at least.

    If I were Calgary then I would trade the 6th overall pick for Corey Crawford in a heartbeat.

    For Chicago? Doesn't make sense for them, especially when they don't have anyone in their pipeline that could replace him.

    If you want to include a trade to Anaheim for someone like Anderson than I could see it making a little more sense but I highly doubt Anaheim trades Anderson to another contender in the same conference.

    Maybe trading Teuvo for Ben Bishop works for them in the short term, but yeah, trading Crawford isn't worth it for the Blackhawks.


    I adjusted Brouwer to a three year contract with a little more cash. Yeah, Calgary is in dire need of some legit goaltending since Kiprusoff left. I'm of the believe you need average goaltending to win. I just feel if you built a legit line-up around an average goalie, than you can win. Huet was the Hawks goaltender majority of the year during their first championship until Niemi took over, which again proves that point. I have put together other teams on here with Anderson with people ripping it, so that's what I don't understand.
    Jun. 6, 2016 at 1:05 a.m.
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    Edited Jun. 6, 2016 at 1:13 a.m.
    Quoting: JohnScott
    I adjusted Brouwer to a three year contract with a little more cash. Yeah, Calgary is in dire need of some legit goaltending since Kiprusoff left. I'm of the believe you need average goaltending to win. I just feel if you built a legit line-up around an average goalie, than you can win. Huet was the Hawks goaltender majority of the year during their first championship until Niemi took over, which again proves that point. I have put together other teams on here with Anderson with people ripping it, so that's what I don't understand.

    You only need average goal tending if the rest of the team is really good - this roster is not quite there. In 2010, the Hawks had one of the best top 4-5 d-core in Keith, Seabrook, Hjammer, Campbell, and Buff and one of the best defensive forward cores (peak Hossa, for ex). 2013 was a pretty magical team too. In 2015, the Hawks were limited to a very good but aging top 4 defensemen group and their weakest forward core, so Crawford had to step up a bit. Last year, the Hawks had only 3 top defensemen, still aging (Seabrook had some wear and tear as the season went on lbr), and so Crawford had to pick up a lot of the slack a lot.

    If Seabrook does not rebound and one of Kempny/TVR/Pokka does not turn into a top 4 defenseman ala Hjammer in 2010, then the Hawks would need more than average goal tending especially since the above suggested forward core is not as strong as years past (defensively, at the very least). That's why people sometimes rip the goalie exchanging - they're not mocking the idea of an average goalie being able to carry a team, they're doubtful an average goalie could carry the suggested forward/defenses that often are listed here. I personally just don't know if Darling is ready to be a starter and most scouts think Johansson is a Swedish, older version of Raanta (so decent backup, not a starter, going to be adjusting to NHL, and not Q's 'type' of preferred goalie).

    Also jtn, if the Hawks had $4.25m to spend, they'd probably use it to keep Ladd. He's a more proven player than Brouwer, and Q didn't exactly trust Brouwer deep into the playoffs in 2010, if time on ice is anything to go by (he was benched for half the Vancouver series, he got bumped down to the 3rd and 4th lines as the playoffs progressed, and ended the Philly series with an average of like 7 minutes in the last 3 games). Giving Brouwer that kind of money for one playoffs would probably bite the Hawks as much as giving Bickell the $4m after one good playoffs.
     
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