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Forum:
NHL Trades
Feb. 28 at 8:44 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY/DAL/NJD) - Tanev for Grushnikov, 2024 2nd (DAL), 2026 4th (DAL), 2026 3rd (DAL) for Brady
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Is this the first time a 3rd team retaining managed to get a 4th rounder? Maybe I'm mis remembering but I thought the going rate was a 5th. Assuming I'm not crazy that's a notable development</div></div>
David Savard was traded for a 1st + 3rd and Tampa gave DET a 4th round pick
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NHL Trades
Feb. 28 at 8:42 p.m.
Thread:
(CGY/DAL/NJD) - Tanev for Grushnikov, 2024 2nd (DAL), 2026 4th (DAL), 2026 3rd (DAL) for Brady
Calgary were never getting a 1st but I dunno, maybe they could have pushed harder for a better prospect than Grushnikov (whose ceiling is as a #6 D it seems). But I get the thinking of replacing Tanev with a defensive defenceman prospect
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 23 at 5:36 p.m.
Thread:
The Sens are not getting back what they paid for Chychrun
Bourque > But
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 23 at 5:09 p.m.
Thread:
The Sens are not getting back what they paid for Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>Honestly idk if you'd even get this package for Chychrun. Mavrik Borque is a pretty great prospect, I'm not sure how easily Dallas would give him up</div></div>
Still not as valuable as a 12th overall pick with But or Benson on the board. I’d rather they go for a hockey trade personally but I don’t mind this trade. Gives us more ammo for Saros
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 10:46 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GoGuinsGo_18</b></div><div>I love Mcleod. Would prefer him coming back in any deal for Jake.</div></div>
Yes he would probably be the long awaited for 3C.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 9:58 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
I don't think the value is bad at all, think it's correct for the most part but I also think there are a few other teams in the league that could offer better youth/prospects.
Would also say the 1st needs to be 2024 and not 2025.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 10:09 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>smokewiseganja</b></div><div>There’s no way you give up McLeod for a rental</div></div>
Tell McDavid that. I get everyone loves their own young guys, but McLeod has 9 goals in 49 games. If you're going for it, you don't let McLeod get in your way.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 10:44 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
I love Mcleod. Would prefer him coming back in any deal for Jake to EDM over any other possible pieces Ive seen.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 9:42 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
People forget Giroux said he wanted to go to Florida and turned down other trades which limited his trade value. Plus trade values have increased greatly especially come deadline time. If there is a bidding war who knows how much someone could pay for a player. Plus Guentzel is a proven top player in the season and playoffs which should boost his value a bit.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 8:18 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Has a rental player ever returned two 1st round picks, even conditionally?</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>The only one I can think of is the Marty St. Louis trade. This would definitely be one of the biggest trade deadline prices to pay ever. But every team is aware that Edmonton has immense pressure to win a cup, and guentzal is a perennial 40 goal scorer (or 40 goal scoring pace).</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>Pretty sure he had a full year remaining on his contract when he was traded.</div></div>
Marian Hossa is the closest comparison. 29yo rental, 40 goal scorer at 6MM.
He returned the Pens best prospect (ranked in the top 30 NHL prospects), a 1st, and two middle 6 forwards under 25. Basically 2 1sts +
Guentzel also has better stats than Marty and is ten years younger.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 8:30 p.m.
Thread:
If there is even a tiny chance theyd trade him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>smokewiseganja</b></div><div>2 firsts would be a bit much for me for Andersson. He’s good but not a star. The first package does seem fair</div></div>
You need to think about what he's worth then add some more because Calgary doesn't have an immediate or even near future replacement for him and add even more because it's edmonton. Two late 1sts wouldn't get it done, it'd have to start with either a very high 1st or a really good young center or defenseman player/prospect with strong 1st line/1st pair potential.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 7:48 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins fans let me know
I don’t see it as a lowball. I actually am happy to see an Oilers fan who thinks that one of the best wingers in the league is actually valuable. Most of your fellow fans have been absolute clowns.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 16 at 1:13 a.m.
Thread:
What would it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RasmusDahlean</b></div><div>Fair, but I would think everyone is available at a price. Minnesota are kinda stuck in no man’s land and can’t do anything about it until the Suter/Parise buyouts decrease. They would get a player that is 2 years younger in Casey and a prospect</div></div>
There’s plenty of other guys they’d look to move WAY before they’d consider what you’re thinking
I’m a fellow Sabres fan, & i like your idea
But it’s just not realistic
Minny isn’t trading him
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 6 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
XHEKAJ TO EDMONTON PEARSON TO DETROIT
Send Pearson elsewhere, Detroit has zero interest in him. he's not an upgrade over what we already have in Grand Rapids.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 1:42 p.m.
Thread:
Calgary Fans
I'd say it's fair-ish value but, NO if the Flames move Andersson to their biggest rivals, might as well just fold the franchise
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 1 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
Calgary Fans
That's a hefty price but I would probably pay that if we got Andersson.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 31 at 2:31 p.m.
Thread:
Avoiding overages next season
Yes it does any cap space left at the end of the season covers overages so right now it would be 3.25m-2.8m=450k that would come off the cap space next year. Ik it can be confusing
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 30 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>Hey, we can finally put an end to the question. In this 32 thoughts podcast Elliot Friedman gets asked the exact question of if earned bonuses can be traded with the player. His answer is pretty definitive: no you can't!
https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/33-thoughts/</div></div>
Yea, someone else also started a thread in regards to it and I got a great response.
If you look in Forum > NHL > How bonuses are handled in trades, they cover a lot of if.
Looks like we're unfortunately stuck with it, will be interesting to see how we handle moving forward.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 25 at 6:08 p.m.
Thread:
Celebrini team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>Do you think Minnesota would be willing to retain a bit of Spurgeon's contract for a bigger haul? I think expecting any team to be interested in a 34 year old 7.5 million dollar player who keeps getting injured is a bit unrealistic. But maybe if the Wild retained a bit a team would pick him up at 5 or 6 million</div></div>
Yeah, retaining ~2 million would probably be more realistic, even though you would probably get even less in real life, maybe a 2nd and a 3rd or maybe only a 2nd and a 4th.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 23 at 4:15 p.m.
Thread:
No Firsts For Rentals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Yeah, those are raw on-ice percentages. Per evolving-hockey's individuals Ceci has a 28% EV defense percentile vs. Fabbro's 68%
Edmonton fans will die on 300 hills before admitting Ceci sucks lol</div></div>
Because he doesn't. And Evolving hockey doesn't correct for QoC, zone starts and other critical components - those numbers are useless. You're better off looking at all the raw numbers.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 23 at 3:49 p.m.
Thread:
No Firsts For Rentals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Analytically speaking, he is</div></div>
Sure but Ceci plays most of his minutes against elite competition so
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 4:55 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>I’d add Gauthier, Trouba and Cousins</div></div>
as a pens fan, in no particular order,
Tom Wilson... well I lied he's the dirtiest scumbag in the league so he's #1
Trouba
Marchand
Evander Kane
Kadri... He was dirty when he was younger I don't know about now... famous clip of Sid calling him a joke, I was watching that game live, he was throwing them high bows
Zegras is just annoying I don't care about him enough to hate him
Binner isn't dirty is he? i respect that Cup run
and legit I believe Pinto was a scapegoat so if you hate on him, gimme the deets of what he did
Gauthier went about that all wrong and I lost all respect for him, even though i clearly don't like the Flyers at all. he's like Zegras, basically irrelevant, but what pretentiousness eh?
So yeah, IDK about 8 legit ones.
But tom wilson... he's the dirtiest guy I've ever seen play BY FAR... and anyone in the Metro who has had to watch him try to hurt people in the playoffs knows this
Lots of people say Perry is dirty, so his reputation proceeds itself
His nickname on hockey reference is The Worm for gahds sakez
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sharkie69</b></div><div>Gonna try and prove your point.
Evander Kane
Brad Marchand
Shane Pinto
Nazem Kadri
Jordan Binnington
Trevor Zegras
Tom Wilson.
There I’ve got 8. A one got more?</div></div>
I’d add Gauthier, Trouba and Cousins
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NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 4:20 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Pretty sure there’s minimum 8 players more hated then him</div></div>
Gonna try and prove your point.
Evander Kane
Brad Marchand
Shane Pinto
Nazem Kadri
Jordan Binnington
Trevor Zegras
Tom Wilson.
There I’ve got 8. A one got more?
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 22 at 3:13 p.m.
Thread:
Edmonton Oilers signed Corey Perry (1 Year / $1,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PurpleHippo</b></div><div>I hope they move Brown at the deadline to free themselves of that bonus then buy out Campbell, saves ~7M next season meaning we only have ~3M in dead cap.</div></div>
I'm pretty sure performance bonus don't transfer over to the new team. Unless the new team has the cap space to absorb the penalty fee in that current year.
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