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Forum: NHL TradesJun. 6, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
Thread: (CBJ/LAK/PHI) - 2023 1st (LAK), 2024 2nd (CBJ) for Petersen, Walker, Grans, 2024 2nd (LAK) for Provorov, Hodgson, Connauton
Los Angeles Kings:

Paid Helge Grans + 2024 2nd to dump Cal Petersen ---- Fine

Traded Sean Walker for Ivan Provorov's salary retention + a couple of AHL scrubs ---- Awful


Kings lose the trade




Columbus Blue Jackets:

Traded #22 overall pick + 2024 2nd for Ivan Provorov at 4.725 million x 2 ---- Good


Blue Jackets win the trade




Philadelphia Flyers:

Traded Ivan Provorov without being the team that retains his salary for #22 overall + 2024/2025 2nd ---- Good

Traded a couple of AHL scrubs for Sean Walker ---- Good

Received Helge Grans + 2024 2nd for taking Cal Petersen ---- Fine


Flyers win the trade




In conclusion ...

Flyers and Blue Jackets win the trade

Kings lose the trade
Forum: NHL TradesJun. 6, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
Thread: (CBJ/LAK/PHI) - 2023 1st (LAK), 2024 2nd (CBJ) for Petersen, Walker, Grans, 2024 2nd (LAK) for Provorov, Hodgson, Connauton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Your analysis acts like walker had negative value. It's poor asset management</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>He may have positive value somewhere, but the value of an additional 2.65M to spend on other areas rather than a 3rd pairing defensemen this year is what they are paying for. The opportunity cost is what they are getting in return.</div></div>
There's reason to believe that the Flyers D corps actually got better through this trade:
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Forum: NHL TradesJun. 6, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
Thread: (CBJ/LAK/PHI) - 2023 1st (LAK), 2024 2nd (CBJ) for Petersen, Walker, Grans, 2024 2nd (LAK) for Provorov, Hodgson, Connauton
The offseason is indeed starting off with a bang. Pretty fair deal all around. Columbus gets another top/second pair LHD to help with Werenski, parting with a surplus 1st round pick and early 2nd rounder. The price might be a tad steep, but the market was set with Chychrun from earlier this season. Hopefully gets Provorov to bounce back to his good days by giving him a steady defensive parter.

For LA, the numbers are what matter here. They take on an effective $9,212,500 in real money in exchange for $5,625,000 in cap savings in 23-24 and $2,975,000 in savings in 24-25. Taking from its surplus of prospects, moving Helge Grans and 54th overall to create valuable cap space (opportunity cost) to help solidify its team as a true contender in the West.

And for Philadelphia, man does Danny B hit a homerun. Able to move a player that doesn’t fit the culture or window and save those Comcast big wigs almost 3 million is quite the deal. 22nd, 2 future 2nd round picks, and Grans for Provorov and taking on an additional cap space of $900,000 this year and saving $1,750,000 the next? He gets to replenish the picks lost from the Fletcher area and still has key trade chips (Hart, Konecny, Hayes) to play with?

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzuWpQLt-w&amp;t=159s" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">The glory days will return</a>
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 24, 2023 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread: In Briere We Trust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jacketsman61</b></div><div>The other thing is that asking price is just way unrealistic. You could probably get a couple of mid round picks and a middling prospect but that is about it. Cap space is a premium.</div></div>

As another Flyers fan chiming in, I think you’re totally off base. Saying Columbus doesn’t NEED Hayes may be true but it’s been widely reunited by national and local guys that Chuck and Jarmo started a Hayes trade at the deadline to revisit in the summer so even though you may think Hayes isn’t needed, your GM may think differently. The Flyers aren’t in need of cap either, we are rebuilding so not signing big time free agents so there is no need to shed cap he just isn’t in the Flyers plans moving forward so retaining Hayes isn’t a cap dump. Nobody on earth is getting paid to take Hayes at ~50% retention that’s just insane. The guys was a point per game player for most of the season and an all-star. While the ask may not be anything crazy the Flyers aren’t going to pay anyone to take him while retaining that’s just hilarious.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 24, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.