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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 23 at 5:24 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>What I'm about to say isn't going to be popular around here but whatever.

Matthews and Nylander HAVE TO BETTER next season. What I mean by that is 60 and 70 goal seasons, 100+ point seasons are fun to watch but you know what's more fun to watch? Playoff wins.

I left out Marner and JT because who knows what happens with either or both but the compete level needs to be at a level we have not seen yet.

Every year I watch top players on other teams in the playoffs raising their levels and wonder why our guys can't bring that. It's not good enough to say "but hey this team plays in the toughest division in the league" I got breaking news for anyone thinking that...the division is not changing and the Leafs are not being moved back to the Western Conference.

This coming season is going to be very telling of what the core guys are really made of.</div></div>

Targetting those two after this year's playoffs is legit silly. Nylander had 3 goals and Matthews led the team in points while both were injured. Come on
Forum: NHLMay 22 at 1:57 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>The thing im concerned with going into next season for TOR is not what the team is gonna look like but goaltending

Woll's health has come into question and I just dont know if you can rely on him as the starter

The goalie market is meh this year for FA and considering this teams 4 year window say go trade for a guy like Saros who can play 40-50 games and help yah win</div></div>

Brossoit-Woll would be a great option and wouldn't require any assets. Stolarz-Woll or Nedeljkovic-Woll is close.

Going to get Markstrom, Ullmark, Binnington, Gibson, Gustavsson, or Vejmelka are either too expensive in assets, cap space, or not an improvement on the above UFA's, IMO.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 14 at 10:15 a.m.
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I kinda disagree when on the assumption that the Leafs window is gonna close a few years down the road. Even if Matthews leaves summer of 2029...well that's 13m to spend elsewhere. If teams spend to the cap wisely, the window is always open. Look at the Bruins for over a decade.</div></div>

It is going to close because they haven't been focused on drafting and developing. And they haven't been maximizing their assets.

The reason the Bruins window was extended so long is because from the time it opened in 2001 they have commited to strong drafting, constant retooling and trading away assets.

2001- 2004 they were in the playoffs.
2005 they trade Thornton.
Miss 2 years of playoffs
2007-2014 there were in the playoffs. In that time they traded Kessel and Seguin
2015 Dougie Hamilton trade
2017 - Present back in the playoffs.

It's likely the end of the road now when Marchand falls off and Pasta declines but keeping their picks and making those big deals were key for them.


The Leafs haven't done this. If they had them they would also have a 25+ year window with a few retools.

Imagine if
2017 - Don't trade a 2nd for Boyle in a year we know we are going out in the 1st round.
2018 - Trade Bozak (signed 3x$5M the next summer with St. Louis so likely gets a 1st+) and JVR (signed 5x$7M with Phili so likely gets a 1st+). ALSO don't trade a 2nd for Plekanec.
2020 - Trade Barrie (Dubas said he has offers including a 1st),
2021- Trade Freddie
2022/2023 - Trade Marner or Nylander.


If we do lol of that then we likely sit with a top 5 farm system in the league. And our current team is likely as good maybe even better than what it is today.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 14 at 9:57 a.m.
Thread: Leafs Prospects, Draft Picks and More
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>As the saying goes age is but a number has no meaning to star power.

Its the reputation and what they have accomplished

Stamkos is a 2 time SC champion, a former rocket, messier winner, a former 60 goal scorer and 1OA pick in 2008

Marner's a guy who in 8 years in the league was just a Selke finalist once. Good playmaker in the regular season but come playoffs disappears

If Stamkos went to Utah Hype would be very real and he would be cheaper to lul

Lets be honest hype for Marner considering all the news would be meh compared to if Utah somehow got Nylander or Matthews</div></div>

As a business owner Marner is 100% the best name to get. He is a genuinely marketable guy to casual audiences in a way Stammer isn't.

Stamkos has a relationship and reputation in TB that won't extend to casual fans in Utah. Marner also has a reputation and he's young, good looking, hosts charity events, loves being involved in the community, giving pucks to kids at warmup. Just go to a Leafs game and see what jersey all the kids are wearing. That's the guy you want. Those kids will drag their parents and friends to the rink.

The player "hardcore" fans think is marketable is never who actually brings in the money.