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Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 23 at 1:01 p.m.
Thread: MTL second Line center
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Johnson has a much higher ceiling than Suzuki. you know this.</div></div>

Ceiling? Maybe... But what I actually do know is that at 127 careers games, Jonhson has 22G, 37A, 59P. After 127 games, Suzuki had 28G, 54A, 82P.

I also know that 3 years later, he's shown constant progress, is our captain and does it well, and is one pace for a PPG season on a ****ty team. And he is on a contract that looks more and more like a bargain each time he touches the ice. So 1:1 Suzuki against Johnson, I'll say no every day of the week, twice on Sunday.

Then, when you talk of Suzuki, an established first line center, as a throw-in in a transaction for a kid who's still proving himself, I am not sure you've paying much attention to how NHL trades work...
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 14 at 1:29 p.m.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 1 at 6:51 p.m.
Thread: Jets get Monahan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EatMyScoobySnack</b></div><div>Savard could feltch something around Second or third round pick + an prospect to the good team in need of defenseman for playoff. Something like Savard 50% retain for Ethan Gauthier with an third round pick maybe ?

Monahan while not as valuable as Lindholm would at least get first round pick and someone like a prospect b or a maybe.</div></div>

Monahan might be worth a first, but he does not have half the first-line-center potential that Lindholm has in the eyes of GMs. They see this year as a negative anomaly for him, and a positive anomaly for Monahan. Given that Lambert is at 1ppg in his first full year in the AHL, he's probably worth more than a potentially 28th-to-32nd overall pick, and he'd be closer to contributing in the NHL. One on one against Monahan, I'd prefer this to (e.g.) the Jets first pick and some second tier prospect (we have too many of those already).

In short, I see the above as Monahan&lt;-&gt;Lambert, which is decent in light of the Lindholm trade, and then the Jets 1rst for Savard with retention. I don't think WIN would pay that for Savard, even retained.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 1 at 6:40 p.m.
Thread: still fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EatMyScoobySnack</b></div><div>Monahan along is an first round + so not fair at all for Montreal.</div></div>

I am not a big fan of this trade. That being said, not all first picks are equal. (This analysis provides interesting insights: https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities).

A 1rst from (e.g.) Boston or Colorado is potentially worth much less than a first from NYR given the current rankings and the odds of their clinching their respective conference.

And maybe Perreault was a 23rd overall pick, but his value has increased since then. Not sure he'd fall to 23rd if we redid the 2023 draft with today's information.

In short, in the NYR were bold enough to give us Perrault 1:1 against Monahan, I'm pretty sure Hughes would say yes... unless someone else seems even more desperate ;)

In a trade with NYR, I'd be less surprised to see a package built around Kakko then around Perreault.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsFeb. 1 at 5:03 a.m.
Thread: Rangers Push - Zero sum cap hit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD25</b></div><div>Then I would not do it. I am not saying you are wrong in terms of value. But if I were Gorton/Hughes, I'd put a lot of value on the last retention slot. Using it means no other retention deals at the deadline, nor at the draft.

Now, remove the retention and add "Calgary's first", I'd consider it. The conditions on CGY's first are such that it is very likely that we're going to receive's Florida's 2025 1rst rounder. In the end, we'd be trading 2 rentals worth at least a 1rst+ together, and an actual late first (Florida's) and a mid-second for Lafrenière. That'd be a pretty decent deal for the Habs. Not sure though that NYR are willing to go that far to get Monahan over (say) Henrique.</div></div>

Given the price just paid by the Canucks for Lindholm, it seems Monahan might be traded 1:1 for Lafrenière in the end ;P
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJan. 29 at 11:58 a.m.
Thread: Rangers Push - Zero sum cap hit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KentMcNally</b></div><div>I think Montreal has to add something more significant to this. Like perhaps Calgary's first round pick (lottery protected if possible) or Joshua Roy. I am not saying it has to be one of those, but something more for sure, in my opinion.</div></div>

Then I would not do it. I am not saying you are wrong in terms of value. But if I were Gorton/Hughes, I'd put a lot of value on the last retention slot. Using it means no other retention deals at the deadline, nor at the draft.

Now, remove the retention and add "Calgary's first", I'd consider it. The conditions on CGY's first are such that it is very likely that we're going to receive's Florida's 2025 1rst rounder. In the end, we'd be trading 2 rentals worth at least a 1rst+ together, and an actual late first (Florida's) and a mid-second for Lafrenière. That'd be a pretty decent deal for the Habs. Not sure though that NYR are willing to go that far to get Monahan over (say) Henrique.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJan. 12 at 6:49 a.m.