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My dream short term retool DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY

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Team: 2024-25 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 8, 2024
Published: Apr. 8, 2024
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DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
Free Agent Signings
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2$3,500,000
1$850,000
2$850,000
2$2,000,000
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5$4,800,000
1$1,250,000
2$2,500,000
4$4,000,000
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  2. 2025 2nd round pick (WPG)
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  1. Kastelic, Mark
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
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  1. Tomasino, Philip [RFA Rights]
NSH
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
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Apr. 8 at 8:50 p.m.
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Don't worry I won't, and the Sens wouldn't do any of this either.
Apr. 8 at 11:00 p.m.
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Brady is pretty close to Meier. That’s not insulting at all

It’s more insulting when Sens fans compare Brady to far better players like his brother


Not even close buddy. Brady does more than just production . And guaranteed he explodes offensively on another team. If Brady is ever moved it would be for an overpay. A late contenders 1st and a prospect with the potential of a 2nd liner is not enough.

Brady is a legit 1st liner and only traded for a legit top pair or future top pair piece or a piece equal to a top 5-7 pick as a starter
Apr. 8 at 11:14 p.m.
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Not even close buddy. Brady does more than just production . And guaranteed he explodes offensively on another team. If Brady is ever moved it would be for an overpay. A late contenders 1st and a prospect with the potential of a 2nd liner is not enough.

Brady is a legit 1st liner and only traded for a legit top pair or future top pair piece or a piece equal to a top 5-7 pick as a starter


Yes Brady adds physical play, but he’s also bad defensively and a fringe PPG guy. He’s not a superstar or an elite 1st line guy like you’re making him out to be. He’s a good 1st liner

And it’s not like Ottawa is a bottom 3 team that’s barely scoring goals like San Jose or Chicago. They’re middle of the pack scoring wise while Tkachuk plays with pretty good linemates as well. I doubt his production explodes that much on a new team
Apr. 8 at 11:15 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Yes Brady adds physical play, but he’s also bad defensively and a fringe PPG guy. He’s not a superstar or an elite 1st line guy like you’re making him out to be. He’s a good 1st liner

And it’s not like Ottawa is a bottom 3 team that’s barely scoring goals like San Jose or Chicago. They’re middle of the pack scoring wise while Tkachuk plays with pretty good linemates as well. I doubt his production explodes that much on a new team


Meier was playing with Hertl and Barabanob and Tkachuk plays with Stutzle and Giroux lmao
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Apr. 9 at 12:16 a.m.
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Meier was playing with Hertl and Barabanob and Tkachuk plays with Stutzle and Giroux lmao


Tkachuk didn’t play on that line this year. Get your factz checked
Apr. 9 at 12:19 a.m.
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Tkachuk didn’t play on that line this year. Get your factz checked


It’s his 3rd most common line this year

210.7 minutes with Pinto and Batherson
158.6 minutes with Norris and Giroux
158.1 minutes with Stutzle and Giroux
137.9 minutes with Norris and Batherson
87.6 minutes with Stutzle and Batherson
Apr. 9 at 12:29 a.m.
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Tkachuk didn’t play on that line this year. Get your factz checked


Objectively those are his most common linemates by 5v5 icetime over the last two years. Again, I listed both of their top 5 most common linemates.
Apr. 9 at 12:29 a.m.
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It’s his 3rd most common line this year

210.7 minutes with Pinto and Batherson
158.6 minutes with Norris and Giroux
158.1 minutes with Stutzle and Giroux
137.9 minutes with Norris and Batherson
87.6 minutes with Stutzle and Batherson


Yes and they’re all still putting up pts while their PP went from top 10 to bottom 5 in the league.

Brady’s ceiling is 40 goals and 90pts
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It’s his 3rd most common line this year

210.7 minutes with Pinto and Batherson
158.6 minutes with Norris and Giroux
158.1 minutes with Stutzle and Giroux
137.9 minutes with Norris and Batherson
87.6 minutes with Stutzle and Batherson


Yeah and they’re all putting up pts even though their PP going from top 10 to bottom 5 in the league.

Brady’s ceiling is 40 goals 90pts and total domination in a way Meier could never influence the game more than the scoresheet
Apr. 9 at 12:29 a.m.
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Objectively those are his most common linemates by 5v5 icetime over the last two years. Again, I listed both of their top 5 most common linemates.


Last year it was . This year it wasn’t .
Apr. 9 at 12:32 a.m.
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Last year it was . This year it wasn’t .


Good thing I was talking about the last 2 years then, where again, Tkachuk has identical points production, worse goal production, and worse defensive metrics than Meier did in the 2 years prior to his trade, despite having better linemates.

But hey, Tkachuk brings random “intangibles” that do not lead to on ice results in any way but are somehow worth multiple 1sts or something because reasons and I guess he also has a brother who’s better than him
Apr. 9 at 12:50 a.m.
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Yes and they’re all still putting up pts while their PP went from top 10 to bottom 5 in the league.

Brady’s ceiling is 40 goals and 90pts

Yeah and they’re all putting up pts even though their PP going from top 10 to bottom 5 in the league.

Brady’s ceiling is 40 goals 90pts and total domination in a way Meier could never influence the game more than the scoresheet


That total domination has led the Sens a lot of success in his career…

And you’re also missing the point that Tkachuk and Meier produced similar offensive numbers despite Tkachuk having significantly better linemates while Meier is also significantly better defensively
Apr. 9 at 8:26 a.m.
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That total domination has led the Sens a lot of success in his career…

And you’re also missing the point that Tkachuk and Meier produced similar offensive numbers despite Tkachuk having significantly better linemates while Meier is also significantly better defensively


Brady’s style of play makes him more valuable in the eyes of every single GM. There would be 100 x more hype in the market if Brady was available compared to Meier
Apr. 9 at 8:27 a.m.
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Good thing I was talking about the last 2 years then, where again, Tkachuk has identical points production, worse goal production, and worse defensive metrics than Meier did in the 2 years prior to his trade, despite having better linemates.

But hey, Tkachuk brings random “intangibles” that do not lead to on ice results in any way but are somehow worth multiple 1sts or something because reasons and I guess he also has a brother who’s better than him


So you’re comparing Tkachuk aged 23 to Meier aged 26 season. Lol
Apr. 9 at 11:41 a.m.
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So you’re comparing Tkachuk aged 23 to Meier aged 26 season. Lol


Again I have given Tkachuk credit for being younger. But it only buys so much compared to in all honesty being worse than Meier was pre trade.
Apr. 9 at 11:57 a.m.
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Again I have given Tkachuk credit for being younger. But it only buys so much compared to in all honesty being worse than Meier was pre trade.


24 year olds can still prove themselves. Holtz and Lundell are 22 and still trying to cement a spot at the top of the lineup lol. Vilardi didn’t get a spot till he was 23
Apr. 9 at 12:08 p.m.
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24 year olds can still prove themselves. Holtz and Lundell are 22 and still trying to cement a spot at the top of the lineup lol. Vilardi didn’t get a spot till he was 23


The development curve historically levels off around age 24. Again, I have admitted that Tkachuk’s age gives him more value than Meier had.

However, what you continuously fail to acknowledge is Meier was equally as good, and in fact better, than Tkachuk is now
Apr. 9 at 12:10 p.m.
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The development curve historically levels off around age 24. Again, I have admitted that Tkachuk’s age gives him more value than Meier had.

However, what you continuously fail to acknowledge is Meier was equally as good, and in fact better, than Tkachuk is now


There’s a lot more to Tkachuk than production that makes him untouchable . Meier doesn’t have the physicality, captaincy, fighting , size or energy that Brady has . He doesn’t have his last name either.

Their style of play is not comparable
Apr. 9 at 12:31 p.m.
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There’s a lot more to Tkachuk than production that makes him untouchable . Meier doesn’t have the physicality, captaincy, fighting , size or energy that Brady has . He doesn’t have his last name either.

Their style of play is not comparable


Are you really trying to use last name as a reason Brady is better? That doesn’t mean anything. Look at Jared Staal, Brent Gretzky, Jordie Benn etc.

Just because you have family members that are a lot better doesn’t mean you’re on their level. If their names were Timo Tkachuk and Brady Meier would that change your opinion?
Apr. 9 at 1:03 p.m.
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There’s a lot more to Tkachuk than production that makes him untouchable . Meier doesn’t have the physicality, captaincy, fighting , size or energy that Brady has . He doesn’t have his last name either.

Their style of play is not comparable


If none of those things lead to actual on ice results I don’t particularly care. Especially since Meier is again also a physical power forward who scores based on high shot volume. They play the exact same style, except Tkachuk throws more hits for the sake of throwing hits.

Throwing hits for the sake of throwing a hit does not provide value especially if it takes you out of the play like it so often does with Tkachuk. Brady Tkachuk has to answer for his own dirty hits more often than Meier and loses his cool easily fighting guys who hit him. But again, those don’t particularly add value.
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Apr. 9 at 1:21 p.m.
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If none of those things lead to actual on ice results I don’t particularly care. Especially since Meier is again also a physical power forward who scores based on high shot volume. They play the exact same style, except Tkachuk throws more hits for the sake of throwing hits.

Throwing hits for the sake of throwing a hit does not provide value especially if it takes you out of the play like it so often does with Tkachuk. Brady Tkachuk has to answer for his own dirty hits more often than Meier and loses his cool easily fighting guys who hit him. But again, those don’t particularly add value.


If you say so lol. But you’re wrong .

And you ain’t getting Brady for a bunch of scraps.
Apr. 9 at 1:22 p.m.
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Are you really trying to use last name as a reason Brady is better? That doesn’t mean anything. Look at Jared Staal, Brent Gretzky, Jordie Benn etc.

Just because you have family members that are a lot better doesn’t mean you’re on their level. If their names were Timo Tkachuk and Brady Meier would that change your opinion?


Brady is a legit unicorn 1st line player.

I wouldn’t trade him for Lekkerimaki or Willander + 1st round pick.

That is not enough .

Only way you ever more Brady is to solve a top pair RD or get a future top line stud
Apr. 9 at 1:26 p.m.
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If you say so lol. But you’re wrong .

And you ain’t getting Brady for a bunch of scraps.


I have listed comps of 4 of the biggest packages of the past half decade.

I'd also offer the Duchene or Seth Jones packages.

Keep Tkachuk then. NJD already made their move for a physical power forward winger.
Apr. 9 at 1:27 p.m.
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Brady is a legit unicorn 1st line player.

I wouldn’t trade him for Lekkerimaki or Willander + 1st round pick.

That is not enough .

Only way you ever more Brady is to solve a top pair RD or get a future top line stud


And yet somehow 2 of these unicorns have been traded in the past 2 years in Meier and Matthew.

If you want a top pair RD you can have Hamilton+ if he'd waive
Apr. 9 at 1:29 p.m.
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And yet somehow 2 of these unicorns have been traded in the past 2 years in Meier and Matthew


Yes and Matthew got a massive return despite only wanting to go to 4 teams . And guys like Necas + , Kyrou + and 2nd overall + were all being offered.

And Not many teams wanted Meier due to his contract demands and could fit him in. And SJ only wanted rebuilding pieces
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And yet somehow 2 of these unicorns have been traded in the past 2 years in Meier and Matthew.

If you want a top pair RD you can have Hamilton+ if he'd waive


Trading Brady to get Hamilton makes 0 sense .
 
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