Based on the ridiculous OT game from the other day, not having your team ready to get back on the ice should be an automatic fine/suspension for the coach.
nhl is a joke... torts suspended 2 games, 50K?!!?! fine
Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.
In general players will probs always admit to wanting to score more goals than assists. As goal scoring is fun ask Mark Stone. That man always acts like he scored his first. Now not to say nothing is bad with generating assists but its arguably a secondary goal unless your a Dman.
As you do need a goal to generate a primary or secondary assist
Both are good accomplishments but got to admit when looking at modern scoring reaching 70 goals be crazy. As the last guy to almost do it was Ovie with 65. How he has not reached 70 be a surprise
Both are super impressive. Only 3 guys with 100 assists. Bonkers.
And the scoring 70 goals doesn't even get you in the hall of fame!?!? Wtf.
Be interesting to see how McDavid Matthews end up compared to Ovi Crosby since scoring is way up now vs the last 20yrs.
Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.
The fact that he's got a cast on while ranting and raving made me think of tourettes guy.
nhl is a joke... torts suspended 2 games, 50K?!!?! fine
Not really, Torts got ejected, Torts should’ve just walked off there and then instead of saying F you, I’m not leaving, that was basically a guarantee Torts was gonna get a big fine. With what he did, I guess a suspension makes sense, it also tells other coaches not to do that
Not really, Torts got ejected, Torts should’ve just walked off there and then instead of saying F you, I’m not leaving, that was basically a guarantee Torts was gonna get a big fine. With what he did, I guess a suspension makes sense, it also tells other coaches not to do that
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Not sure what you expect. You can't just tell the ref to effoff and refuse to serve a penalty.
You can throw a fit on the way out, damage is done at that point, but you still have to leave.
He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.
He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.
He may well have had a legitimate reason to flip out.
The ref should be held accountable after the fact if it wasn't justified (that's a separate issue the NHL already struggles with).
In the moment however, like it or not, once a call is finalized you have to take it and allow the game to continue.
Both are super impressive. Only 3 guys with 100 assists. Bonkers.
And the scoring 70 goals doesn't even get you in the hall of fame!?!? Wtf.
Be interesting to see how McDavid Matthews end up compared to Ovi Crosby since scoring is way up now vs the last 20yrs.
I think the McDavid vs Matthews and the Crosby vs Ovechkin are going to be 2 completely different debates
As the 2 biggest factors are; Toronto and EDM's chances at a cup and the all around game...
In Crosby vs Ovi, I think it's safe to say, when Crosby won the cup and went to the SCF in 2008 and 2009, we all knew Crosby was better especially because of his defensive capabilities whereas Ovi was shoot and shoot
Contrast to that, Matthews' defensive game is amongst the best in the world whereas McDavid's is average at best
To add, neither team looks as close to the cup as Vegas, Florida, NYR or Colorado does so anything related to winning will go out the window until one of them wins actually it all
I think the McDavid vs Matthews and the Crosby vs Ovechkin are going to be 2 completely different debates
As the 2 biggest factors are; Toronto and EDM's chances at a cup and the all around game...
In Crosby vs Ovi, I think it's safe to say, when Crosby won the cup and went to the SCF in 2008 and 2009, we all knew Crosby was better especially because of his defensive capabilities whereas Ovi was shoot and shoot
Contrast to that, Matthews' defensive game is amongst the best in the world whereas McDavid's is average at best
To add, neither team looks as close to the cup as Vegas, Florida, NYR or Colorado does so anything related to winning will go out the window until one of them wins actually it all
I'm more interested in the OviCrosby vs Matthews McDavid debate.
He shouldn't have been ejected in the first place. The refs made two terrible calls within 10 seconds of each (attard tripping call & Hathaway 10 Min misconduct for a shove). Torts said the first one was a dive but he didn't argue it too much, the 2nd one upset him so he made sure they knew but he really hadn't done anything out of the normal of coaches after bad calls. Then they wrongfully ejected him, so he told them to eff-off and flipped out.
If refs do their job, instead of abruptly ejecting torts because he called out a call. Torts doesn't flip out.
The refs might’ve deserved it but you can’t tell the refs “screw you, I’m not respecting your decision to eject me”, once the refs eject you, there’s nothing for you to do except walk off and hope the NHL talks to the refs. The refs might’ve had it coming but Torts definitely had it coming, the NHL does not want coaches to start doing what Torts did
The refs might’ve deserved it but you can’t tell the refs “screw you, I’m not respecting your decision to eject me”, once the refs eject you, there’s nothing for you to do except walk off and hope the NHL talks to the refs. The refs might’ve had it coming but Torts definitely had it coming, the NHL does not want coaches to start doing what Torts did
Exactly, I’m not really aware of why Torts got kicked out and it wouldn’t surprise me if he probably shouldn’t have been, but you have to respect the refs. As much as we complain about the refs being crappy, you can’t play the game without them. If more coaches start doing this it would be a disaster for the NHL
Exactly, I’m not really aware of why Torts got kicked out and it wouldn’t surprise me if he probably shouldn’t have been, but you have to respect the refs. As much as we complain about the refs being crappy, you can’t play the game without them. If more coaches start doing this it would be a disaster for the NHL
I agree that it would not be good if this kind of thing happens more often, but I think the solution would be holding the refs accountable. Maybe post-game interviews like everyone else (although that could have negative influences as well). If the refs are handing out 10 minute misconducts for shoving, there’s going to be more guys in each box than on the bench.
It would be interesting if the nhl tried punishing officials.
During the game, players can cross the line, they’re human, and there are standard consequences for those choices.
During the game, coaches can cross the line, they’re human, and they have consequences for their choices too.
Refs will cross the line too, they’re also human.
So why not give them a standard of consequences.
I think it would be fun. Wes McCauley gets a 2 game sussy for missing 3 high sticks while calling a hooking penalty where it was the players own teammate.
It would be interesting if the nhl tried punishing officials.
During the game, players can cross the line, they’re human, and there are standard consequences for those choices.
During the game, coaches can cross the line, they’re human, and they have consequences for their choices too.
Refs will cross the line too, they’re also human.
So why not give them a standard of consequences.
I think it would be fun. Wes McCauley gets a 2 game sussy for missing 3 high sticks while calling a hooking penalty where it was the players own teammate.
Just do what European teams do and have them do public interviews explaining non calls. That should be the punishment
I agree that it would not be good if this kind of thing happens more often, but I think the solution would be holding the refs accountable. Maybe post-game interviews like everyone else (although that could have negative influences as well). If the refs are handing out 10 minute misconducts for shoving, there’s going to be more guys in each box than on the bench.
I agree there should be some way to hold refs accountable, don’t mind the idea of the refs getting interviewed, but have the coaches openly refuse to comply with the refs is a disaster for the NHL and needs to be avoided at all costs. Bad refs are better than no refs
I agree there should be some way to hold refs accountable, don’t mind the idea of the refs getting interviewed, but have the coaches openly refuse to comply with the refs is a disaster for the NHL and needs to be avoided at all costs. Bad refs are better than no refs
Refs will be gone soon anyway once hockey develops its own ai officiating system for penalties and plays. Baseball already getting rid of most umpires with their new system which I believe comes 2025 and Basketball has plans for 2027
Refs will be gone soon anyway once hockey develops its own ai officiating system for penalties and plays. Baseball already getting rid of most umpires with their new system which I believe comes 2025 and Basketball has plans for 2027
Refs will be gone soon anyway once hockey develops its own ai officiating system for penalties and plays. Baseball already getting rid of most umpires with their new system which I believe comes 2025 and Basketball has plans for 2027
Times a ticking for them.
Bold of you to assume the league will ever get with the times
Refs will be gone soon anyway once hockey develops its own ai officiating system for penalties and plays. Baseball already getting rid of most umpires with their new system which I believe comes 2025 and Basketball has plans for 2027