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Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 2

Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:45 p.m.
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Klingberg needs off the team. Now. I’m not over reacting. He’s so so so bad


He needs to go in the pressbox for now

I know about Benoit but Idc

Klingberg played so casual without a care in the world.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:46 p.m.
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Through 11 games, the member of the supporting cast (outside of Rielly, Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Jt; the Core 5) with the most points in John Klingberg and Calle Järnkrok at 5

With Domi and Knies sitting at 4

Bert and Gio at 3...

Pathetic


I think Domi is getting a bit too much hate for his play and Bert gets less criticism than he deserves. How is Bert paid 5.5 to do nothing
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:46 p.m.
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@Random2152 Looks like our hopes of Sam Dickinson being a Leaf may be coming true!
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:47 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
Honestly idk if you should even consider bringing Willy back as then were gonna run into the same **** next year

4 guys scoring all the goals and eating all their cap and at higher hits no less

Im not disrespecting but the issues from the past are being highlighted rn

They got to do all the work, no depth, problems
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronSquires
I think Domi is getting a bit too much hate for his play and Bert gets less criticism than he deserves. How is Bert paid 5.5 to do nothing


Domi should be playing Center I will beat that drum till it ****ing breaks

Thats how he had 13 points in 19 playoff games and had 56 points in the reg season

Enough on his offwing

Also bailed Woll out hard
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronSquires
I think Domi is getting a bit too much hate for his play and Bert gets less criticism than he deserves. How is Bert paid 5.5 to do nothing


That entire team, with the except of Matthews, should be traded right away, I'm not overreacting... When was the last time someone's scored a hat trick and their team still lost?

I know the Leafs have done it twice in 7 years...
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.
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That entire team, with the except of Matthews, should be traded right away, I'm not overreacting... When was the last time someone's scored a hat trick and their team still lost?

I know the Leafs have done it twice in 7 years...


This feels like an overreaction lul

Entire team

Bit overboard right there
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
This feels like an overreaction lul


When was the last time someone scored a hat trick and their team still lost?

Where was this "grit" and ability to never give up we were all promised? When guys like Bertuzzi would still be blocking shots down 3 with 30 secs left?
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.
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When was the last time someone scored a hat trick and their team still lost?

Where was this "grit" and ability to never give up we were all promised? When guys like Bertuzzi would still be blocking shots down 3 with 30 secs left?


The team didnt give up though they just got sloppy thats not giving up

Giving up is not trying

Only guy who was like that Klingberg

Grit they were smacking Buffalo around what you want them to take stupid penalties against the Sabers who are not a tough team dont be that. Buffalo is fast and took advantage of sloppy plays

0 to do with grit as in the end they outhit the Sabers

What you wanted Reaves to take a 5min for no reason
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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The Leafs are a rebuild away from contending. The mentality never changes. The issues are never resolved. The team still sucks.

This era, which should have been one of the brightest in Leafs history, has been completely wasted. So disappointed with these guys, there's no reason for them to not be monsters out there.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
The team didnt give up though they just got sloppy thats not giving up

Giving up is not trying

Only guy who was like that Klingberg

Grit they were smacking Buffalo around what you want them to take stupid penalties against the Sabers who are not a tough team dont be that


I didn't watch the 1rst or 2nd period... But the 3rd was abysmal for all not named Auston Matthews, no effort from guys like Marner and Nylander...

You can't expect guys to score 3 hat tricks in 11 games...
Nov. 4, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
The Leafs are a rebuild away from contending. The mentality never changes. The issues are never resolved. The team still sucks.

This era, which should have been one of the brightest in Leafs history, has been completely wasted. So disappointed with these guys, there's no reason for them to not be monsters out there.


The injuries and choices have hurt them bad so far

McCabe and Liligren being out was noticable

Using Reaves every game is just a no

Domi at RW just stop pls put him at Center and save us a headache

Gregor should be waived tomorrow and Klingberg can join him

Robertson should be up and rest Bertuzzi as why put out a guy not 100% were just asking for this.

Its still early but its clear they need to add to that blue line and revamp that bottom 6

Knies-Domi-Jarnkrok
McMann-Kampf-JP

Rielly-Brodie
McCabe-Lagesson
Gio-Peeke

Till Liligren and Timmins are back
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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3 things for NOV

1. Change the 4th line

2. Add to the Blue line

3. Split up Matthews and Marner and spread scoring

For reference

Gregor and Reaves just not every day NHLers

Reaves should be used for matchups. Buffalo whose there for him to fight Greenway he dont do that 24/7

Gregor man whats the difference from you to Ellis, Steeves, McMann nothing so far

Then Blue line

No net front defender
Klingberg is worse than any Dman they have had since Marincin
To fragile with all the injuries
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Random2152 Looks like our hopes of Sam Dickinson being a Leaf may be coming true!


Nah were still too good for that.
On the bright side, another nice goal from Cowboy tonight
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
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Dear hockey gods

Pls let Timmins get better soon so we can waive Klingberg to the moon

Signed Leafs nation

Not gonna say the other as thats to mean

But yea its to the point I wouldnt even care if they turned Klingberg into Siemek in a straight 1 for 1
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:48 p.m.
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Well at least the somewhat good news the Atlantic is so bad minus Boston rn they still somehow in it.

We be the new Pacific lul

But yea need to be better.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:55 p.m.
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Nah were still too good for that.
On the bright side, another nice goal from Cowboy tonight


He should have got a game with the bigboyz. Even if it was one. Would have been interesting as maybe he may have made a case to push one of Marner or Nylander down to spread out scoring

As we never got to see him play with them they just rested almost all preseason lul
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:00 p.m.
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You know what **** it I know what I have said about him

Gimmie Jesse Pulijarvi. IDC if he cant score at least you can have him over reaves for most matchups
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.
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@MatthewsFan

I know you've brought up Brendan Dillon before, I haven't seen enough of him recently to know if he still has it in other areas of his game, but f*ck could the Leafs ever use him in-front of their own net. At least at one point he was what what everyone tried to convince the hockey world Chiarot was, and more. If the rest of his game hasn't lost a step, he'd be well worth a phone call to the Jets if they're out of it.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:16 p.m.
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You know what **** it I know what I have said about him

Gimmie Jesse Pulijarvi. IDC if he cant score at least you can have him over reaves for most matchups


Welcome aboard the Bison King Bandwagon
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:16 p.m.
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Welcome aboard the Bison King Bandwagon


I think after last Halloween he got a new nickname

Icepice Pulijarvi
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:19 p.m.
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The lack of depth production from the Leafs is honestly really worrying. I'm almost positive Domi and Bertuzzi will click eventually, but our bottom 6 is still cheeks. Defensive structure is a nightmare. This team could be so good, but they aren't. This genuinely reminds me a lot of the start of the season when Babcock got fired. The only issue is that Keefe isn't going to get fired. We are in for a long season barring a HUGE miracle, because even if our forward group steps up, we still aren't good enough defensively
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
The lack of depth production from the Leafs is honestly really worrying. I'm almost positive Domi and Bertuzzi will click eventually, but our bottom 6 is still cheeks. Defensive structure is a nightmare. This team could be so good, but they aren't. This genuinely reminds me a lot of the start of the season when Babcock got fired. The only issue is that Keefe isn't going to get fired. We are in for a long season barring a HUGE miracle, because even if our forward group steps up, we still aren't good enough defensively


He'll get fired if it comes to it. The extension didn't mean squat other than to stop it from being a talking point and giving Tre an extra bullet.

I think it'll come for Bertuzzi, just need to find the right mix and have some stars align. Domi I'm not sold on at all. And if he's not providing depth scoring he brings NOTHING to the table. Like legitimate negative on ice value for 3million bucks.
 
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