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Vladar

Created by: tasieboy
Team: 2023-24 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 17, 2023
Published: Oct. 17, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
LAK
  1. 2025 5th round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
If quick sucks and need a better back up
2.
LAK
  1. Greer, AJ
  2. Vladar, Daniel
Additional Details:
Fair?
CGY
  1. Grundström, Carl
  2. 2025 4th round pick (LAK)
Retained Salary Transactions
Termination Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,495,834$0$3,945,000$4,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,200,000$4,200,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
LD
UFA - 8
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$875,000$875,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 2

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Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:24 p.m.
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Just what the Kings need...a 4th backup goaltender.

If the Kings do trade for Vladar for some dumb reason, then Calgary will need to take either Talbot or Rittich back.
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:28 p.m.
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NYR pass. They don’t need to waste a pick or cap for Copley who’s numbers aren’t even that much better than Quick’s last few years

They would just call up Domingues from the AHL
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.
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Vladar actually had worse number than all of Copley, Talbot, and Rittich last season AND is more expensive. Not sure why LA would pay for Calgary to have a stronger tandem with Wolf.
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Vladar actually had worse number than all of Copley, Talbot, and Rittich last season AND is more expensive. Not sure why LA would pay for Calgary to have a stronger tandem with Wolf.


He also faced strictly less shots per game because Calgary rarely let a low quality shots get to the net. Im not saying he's a better option but at this point its about finding anything that works
Oct. 17, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
He also faced strictly less shots per game because Calgary rarely let a low quality shots get to the net. Im not saying he's a better option but at this point its about finding anything that works


Similar story with Copley, I actually think Talbot is going to be fine. His goals allowed against the Avs weren't exactly soft (well maybe one), but the majority looked like he will serve as a .900ish goaltender. The Kings will need an answer by the trade deadline, but options like Vladar seem like lateral moves.
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Oct. 17, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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I would trade Talbot over Copley
Copley did great last year
Oct. 17, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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Drury says no thanks.
Oct. 18, 2023 at 1:01 a.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Similar story with Copley, I actually think Talbot is going to be fine. His goals allowed against the Avs weren't exactly soft (well maybe one), but the majority looked like he will serve as a .900ish goaltender. The Kings will need an answer by the trade deadline, but options like Vladar seem like lateral moves.


I really think they should ve all over Carter Hart personally
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Oct. 18, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
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I really think they should ve all over Carter Hart personally


Money won’t work and the price tag is likely too high, at least for this season. I think they take a run at Lankinen. He will be the same price and has much better metrics.

Talbot also put on an impressive showing yesterday, so the urgency has definitely gone down some.
Oct. 18, 2023 at 3:30 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Money won’t work and the price tag is likely too high, at least for this season. I think they take a run at Lankinen. He will be the same price and has much better metrics.

Talbot also put on an impressive showing yesterday, so the urgency has definitely gone down some.


IMO Lankinen is just more of the same. Hart can be retained on and is just entering his prime. He's also become criminally underrated on this site because of the team he plays on. But if you think he's too expensive next year then I can understand the problem. I guess it depends on how much more Byfield and Kaliyev are going to make
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Oct. 18, 2023 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
IMO Lankinen is just more of the same. Hart can be retained on and is just entering his prime. He's also become criminally underrated on this site because of the team he plays on. But if you think he's too expensive next year then I can understand the problem. I guess it depends on how much more Byfield and Kaliyev are going to make


To me the part that feels off, is that Hart will want a big pay raise, and Blake is still paying and frustrated with himself for what he gave Cal Petersen without seeing him act as the team's starter. Blake has made mistakes, but he doesn't often repeat them. Whatever player gets extended with the Kings, they need to take over the goaltending for 20-30 games and win some playoff games before getting a big contract.

I think Blake that the Wild got Gustavsson and the Knights got Hill for really no huge payment or cap hit and figured if you have a strong defense, a good backup could be all you need without spending big assets. For the value, I think the Talbot bet will work fine for this season, he was arguably the Kings best player yesterday.

Lankinen put up a 0.916 last season, Askarov is coming, much more of a no-brainer to me over Vladar.
Oct. 18, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
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To me the part that feels off, is that Hart will want a big pay raise, and Blake is still paying and frustrated with himself for what he gave Cal Petersen without seeing him act as the team's starter. Blake has made mistakes, but he doesn't often repeat them. Whatever player gets extended with the Kings, they need to take over the goaltending for 20-30 games and win some playoff games before getting a big contract.

I think Blake that the Wild got Gustavsson and the Knights got Hill for really no huge payment or cap hit and figured if you have a strong defense, a good backup could be all you need without spending big assets. For the value, I think the Talbot bet will work fine for this season, he was arguably the Kings best player yesterday.

Lankinen put up a 0.916 last season, Askarov is coming, much more of a no-brainer to me over Vladar.


There is a massive difference between Petersen and Hart though. 1 of them is a bona fide NHL starter with great metrics on a **** team, the other was literally waived by the same team earlier this month. I understand your point about the Wild and Knights though. You can get by with average goaltending if you have a strong defense but you do need at least 1 of 2 and at least 2 of strong goaltending, strong offense, and strong goaltending to be a contender

Askarov is still a year or 2 away from making the NHL. they might sell Lankanen at the deadline but probably not any time sooner
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Oct. 18, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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There is a massive difference between Petersen and Hart though. 1 of them is a bona fide NHL starter with great metrics on a **** team, the other was literally waived by the same team earlier this month. I understand your point about the Wild and Knights though. You can get by with average goaltending if you have a strong defense but you do need at least 1 of 2 and at least 2 of strong goaltending, strong offense, and strong goaltending to be a contender

Askarov is still a year or 2 away from making the NHL. they might sell Lankanen at the deadline but probably not any time sooner


Yeah, honestly almost any Kings fan was on board with all the money going to a #1 goalie or at least reupping Korpisalo. But with so much spent on PLD and Gavrikov, I think we have to just go with this vision, at the very least for this season.
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