Quoting: Victor24
Right. I have said all of that. My logic was that Calgary has a surplus of defenseman. Hanafin has value but he has had a bad year. He would be the most likely piece to be moved. The return would provide a middle 6 forward, two 2nd round picks, and 5MM in cap space.
I know all of the advanced stats. If you look at them for this year, he is not a 1st pairing defenseman. I didn't say he was valueless or terrible. If he was, I wouldn't have (in this mock) traded for him.
You can't say he is 75th or 81st or 99th in a stat, and then say he is UNQUESTIONABLY a 1st pair defenseman. I mean.... I guess you can (being a free country and all) but the logic fails to track. He ranks 6th among Calgary dmen in terms of on ice shot % with his team more likely to score by 2% with him on the bench. Compared to Letang (9% more likely) or Hughes (11%) or Makar (7%). For context, -2% is close to Hagg, Leddy, and Goligoski.
Top pairing defenseman make it more likely for their team to score, not less likely.
Lol right so Calgary should sell low on Hanifin in your opinion? Ryan Poeling is not a middle 6 forward either, he literally should not make the Fpames starting lineup next year even if they sign zero UFA's.
How are those not 1st pair defenseman numbers? When tracking things like Corsi, SF%, and expected goals there are 2 sides of the ice. For and against. I posted both and then the average.
Lets take a look at some of those names you mentioned though
Letang: 24th in SF/60, 181st in SA/60, 18th in CF/60, 153rd in CA/60, 5th in xGF/60, 163rd in xGA/60
Hughes: 124th in SF/60, 36th in SA/60, 132nd CF/60, 33rd in CA/60, 151st in xGF/60, 100th in xGA/60.
As you can see being top 100 in both the offensive and defensive aspects of analytics is very difficult to achieve, very few players excell at both