LOL

Ok, then can you please explain to me if nobody claimed him off the waiver wire for free why anyone would trade actual assets to get him?

Dude it’s just about buyout cost — idk why ur upset with me. I’m not the one buying him out smh.

He wasn't placed on waivers to be claimed...figure it out.

putting someone on waivers always invokes the risk of them being claimed.

certain i've had discussions here about how a player who went through waivers doesn't have much trade value, but i guess because vrana is a red wing it's somehow different.

this is just too galaxy brained for me. Of course Yzerman made a calculated decision that it was *unlikely* Vrana got claimed due to his cap hit and issues this year, but you can't tell me that he wasn't prepared for the eventuality that some lottery team with cap space to burn would take a swing on him and try and rehabilitate his value themselves. The fact they still put him on waivers should be more than enough evidence that he was less valuable to their team at that time than guys like Jordan Oesterle or Adam Erne.

That’s not what reports coming out of Detroit say rn…. But ok bud.

Entertaining thread lol

Bottom line is that outside of the organization, no one has one clue as to how things are going. Moves were made in GR to get Vrana more playing time, but that could have been for several reasons (re-call/trade value/confidence/etc.). He seems to be getting back on track, but that doesn’t mean HE wants to stay with the wings. It also doesn’t mean that THE WINGS still want him. It’s all speculation, which is why so many debates occur to his value.

At the end of the day, Vrana being buried doesn’t hurt the Wings. Detroit is not cash strapped, and also has a number of forwards coming up needing spots (Adam Erne sent down for Zadina’s return as an example). Next season could change that narrative, but for now, it’s moot.

Wings fans get a little volatile because when on the ice, he is electric for Detroit. Other fans get volatile because he isn’t on the ice nearly as much as he needs to be to justify his contract nor the crazy trade demands from Detroit fans. It’s no surprise however that more Vrana trades pop up because it is pretty well known what he can do when he is 100%.

Just my two cents, cheers!

Incorrect....on all fronts.

Ya, "reports" are usually spot on....

i'd love for you to elaborate with something concrete, then. did Yzerman call all the other 31 GMs and make them pinky promise to not claim Vrana? was Vrana on a special, heretofore unknown form of waivers that would make it impossible for other teams to claim him?

because unless you're privy to some random piece of information that -nobody else- has reported on, the Red Wings decided on January 4th that they were willing to risk the possibility of losing Vrana for nothing instead of having to carry him on their NHL roster. like I said, it was definitely a calculated risk hoping that the rest of the league would look at his cap hit and lack of conditioning and pass, but you cannot tell me that there was not even a 1% concern in the Red Wings' front office that a team with cap space to burn like Arizona would claim Vrana and give him the ice time to get back in game shape and work himself back into positive trade value.

It’s not a personal attack tho… just stating what has been reported, and I pointed out the difference in buyout cost. That’s it, that’s all, that’s over. Lol

Potentially but every report on the Vrana situation has said Yzerman isn’t interested in riding it out and is going to dump him or buy him out. So here I let DET stay in the same situation (with a winger who’s gonna need to be dumped or bought out) but they get an extra pick for it.

Vrana passed through waivers, nobody wanted him. Irdk how you think he’s a positive asset

What report? Please show me one, because Yzerman never tips his hand like that.

Lalonde just said two days ago that they're pleased with how he's doing in GR and constantly evaluating him.

I literally covered that in the very post you REPLIED to.............

No actually you didn’t. You wrote some word salad about calculated risk (tho I’m not sure how you’d know that if yzerman never tips his hand)

Oh, ok, so this isn't a DIRECT enough response to Vrana's waiver situation and why he was put through waivers to you? How could I have been clearer?
"...he took a calculated risk with the waiver at the time and it looks like it's paying off. Vrana was given an opportunity to get his game back (in a lower pressure situation), get his personal stuff sorted..."

THAT response was to what you said had about Vrana going through waivers, it had nothing to do with Yzerman not tipping his hand, you're crossing threads. With that said, how I know Yzerman doesn't tip his hand - history. Also, you still haven't posted a link to a credible article with a direct quote stating that Yzerman is looking to move on from Vrana.

You're just arguing to argue at this point and completely ignoring my replies, so I'm not going to keep this going any further, good afternoon.

Wow you’re reading comprehension is worse than I thought. If Stevie never tips his hand how do you know why they sent him down? Maybe they’re just done with him and intend to move on from him?
You also haven’t addressed the issue from the other teams side. If every gm let him pass through waivers why in hell do you think he’d get back a positive asset. “I’m gonna let this guy go through waivers so that I could trade an asset for him” is something no gm has ever said.

I am simply here to state that AHL points should be taken with a grain of salt by some of these fans here.

Other players at or around a point per game in the AHL include Riley Barber, Ethen Frank, Andrew Poturalski, Michael Carcone, TJ Tynan, and Christian Wolanin.

That is all.