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Credit to @Devil for coming up with the idea.

Agree with most of the list. Wouldn't do it for Rasmus Andersson bc we don't need another RHD unless we trade Sevo. Would avoid Swayman and Oettinger also bc they're so young; I need to see a few years like that before giving up 20A. And although Power is good, I wouldn't do it for him, not that Buffalo is even thinking of moving him

You definitely aren't getting dahlin or power without adding another key piece.

Kudos for the work that went into this post, that being said just to give you the Chicago perspective here as Debrincat is subject to many trades on this site for that pick,

Chicago is not adding to Debrincat for 2nd OA. Devils would be adding there. Hawks probably would definetly do it if the offer was Holtz and 2nd for cat. That ask is what I would call an overpay, which it would take to get Cat. Might be able to settle lower around something for Gritsyuk+2nd OA+2023 conditional 2nd.

Overall I think every team declines an "offer" based on what catagory you have their player in, but like I said earlier props to you for the effort put into this post

I understand and applaud the effort. Realistically IMO, the only players who this pick could be used in part of a trade for are:
Tkachuk, Debrincat, Hellebucyk, Fiala (Wild add) and Boeser (Canucks add).

I also do think that you are overvaluing the pick a bit. Slafkovsky is the best option there and while I think he will be incredible, he is not worth nearly any of the players here. I understand the idea 100%, but this 2OA is more likely getting moved for one of the players i mentioned above.

Really cool to do this, tho

The whole 1-1 im pretty sure the other team would want significantly more

It would take a significant add on top of 2OA in this draft to get anywhere near Zegras, and most of these players honestly

Almost everyone, if not everyone, will require more than just 2OA. Appreciate the work put in, but you are being incredibly unrealistic on some of these. From a Canes perspective, Slavin isn’t being moved, period. If you were wanting Slavin, you would be looking at 2OA, Siegenthaler to replace Slavin, and then an untouchable piece from the core. That would only be something to get the conversation started. And Svechnikov won’t be traded either, mainly from the premise that he is a skilled power forward. He is one of a couple remaining of that category, and he still has another level to hit.

Right now, the only players off the Canes roster that might be available this off-season would be Necas, Bear, Lorentz, and potentially Raanta. I’m guessing that the Devils won’t even think about trading 2OA for any of them.

Just a side note, Svech won’t be traded 1-1 for 2OA and Carolina sure as heck won’t be adding to Slavin. Good work on the ACGM though.

Pretty sure you are overvaluing your scratch ticket a bit here

This is a joke right, you are massively overvaluing the pick.

This is insane, this must be a joke he can’t be serious

He is on there for one specific reason. D-zone exits.
He is one of the best in that regard and its long been one of our weaknesses.

And I'm not sure I would trade that pick for any goalie that is available.
But I imagine some will be on their list.

You think NJ is going to get 1 of 2 recent, overwhelmingly consensus, #1 overall selections from Buffalo, for #2 overall in this draft. Don't over rate the draft just because its the draft of current year. Both Dahlin and Power are established in the NHL, why would anyone in their right mind trade them for the #2 pick. especially Dahlin for #2 straight up?? that's delusional

These were not really offers, just a mock of the list that Devils brass will be making and the types of names that will be on it.

As for 2oa + Holtz...that is the ask from every team for every player

One-year rental coming off career year = 2oa + Holtz
Young developing defensive dman = 2oa + Holtz
Declining former Vezina winner = 2oa + Holtz
Young prospect shooter = 2oa + Holtz

In the cap era, top-10 forward prospects are VERY rarely traded, and 2nd overall picks have never been traded for players.
Yet....that package is asked for everyday on ACGM.

I get that, which is why I said it is unrealistic, but it is what the hawks should ask. Cat is the next captain of the blackhawks and hawks need an overpay to move him. However, just like hagel, KD will oprobably move him for the right price even though it will make hawks fans irate. I think of this entire like only 4-5 of the players are atcual targets, and Cat is one of them. We can both agree Devils would be adding to 2OA for cat, correct? If you're going to draft slafkovky, you're hoping he becomes the tier of player cat is already, where as cat is already there, a leader, and still very young.

Cat is more valuable than most of the guys you have in the next two tiers above him in this post, imo

None of this is about value
This is coming up with players on the reported "list"
Starting with larger list
And then trying to come up with ways to prioritize them and cut them down.

Its not about value...

You're not getting a former 2nd overall pick like Svechnikov from an arguably stronger draft for this years 2OA.

Slavin is even less realistic.

For Carolina, you're more likely looking at Teravainen + someone like Necas. I know this seems a little underwhelming in terms of value, but there's no way they're moving a top 5 D man in the NHL in Slavin for a 2nd overall, and they're not moving Svechnikov for 2OA. 1OA, that would be different. But if Wright isn't on the table, it's not worth it. Cooley isn't worth it.

? This entire thread seems to be centered solely around the value, you even charted off the value in the roster.

I don't want Slavin. I am not asking for Slavin.

I was trying to come up with ideas for guys that our GM might be putting on their list.

It was just labels - should be more like "guys we'd pay a little extra for", "guys we'd take at discount" etc.

None of these are trades. I was trying to get a big list down to a small list and use that for trades.

I think this is the wrong year to be trying to move the second overall pick. There isn't a consensus second overall pick- I mean is it cooley, one of the right d, slafovsky? This isn't a slam dunk #2 like eichel, svechnikov, or Laine (top of my head). Most likely, the best offer is a quantity offer, and nobody wants to hear about that. It's not like it's bad, just take the best player available, I dont see any teams parting with the pieces suggested here.

Well, yeah I dont think you want BOTH Dahlin and Power for #2, I would tell you to delete your account ROFL. The labels are what I was contending. Dahlin isnt going 1 for 1 for the 2nd overall pick, i dont know why an NHL GM would think that, and Power will take a lot more not just a little more

Maybe we will just take one of these offers from ACGM. Let me see...Josh Anderson? Tyler Myers? JT Miller....there are a lot of those? Zadina? Lorenz? Mrazek and Holl together?