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Created by: Chabotrrorr
Team: 2022-23 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 22, 2022
Published: May 22, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$774,167
2$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
2$750,000
1$750,000
2$910,000
2$845,000
4$2,500,000
2$925,000
1$765,000
1$900,000
1$774,125
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
1$750,000
2$750,000
2$1,250,000
1$800,000
3$2,925,000
3$975,000
2$1,550,000
3$7,000,000
3$7,000,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Roy, Nicolas$3,000,000
2023 2nd round pick
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi [RFA Rights]
2.
PIT
  1. Nylander, William
Additional Details:
They trade Mrazek to Buffalo with a 3rd round pick 2022 (WPG)
TOR
  1. Björkqvist, Kasper [RFA Rights]
  2. Pettersson, Marcus
  3. Poulin, Samuel
  4. 2022 1st round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Is this enough?
3.
PIT
  1. Lipkin, Sam [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 6th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Zucker, Jason
  2. 2022 5th round pick (PIT)
4.
5.
EDM
    Casey DeSmith signing rights
    6.
    PIT
    1. Shafigullin, Bulat [Reserve List]
    2. 2022 4th round pick (LAK)
    LAK
    1. McGinn, Brock
    2. 2022 6th round pick (ARI)
    Buyouts
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    2023
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    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the TOR
    2024
    Logo of the PIT
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    Logo of the PIT
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$80,954,033$0$0$545,967
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,125,000$5,125,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $900,000$900,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,125,000$3,125,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,925,000$2,925,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $2,200,000$2,200,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 1
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 5
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $4,100,000$4,100,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,400,000$4,400,000
    RD
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $800,000$800,000
    RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $925,000$925,000
    G
    RFA
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $775,000$775,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    LW, C
    UFA
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $750,000$750,000
    LW
    UFA - 1

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    May 22, 2022 at 12:33 p.m.
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    Rodrigues $2.925Mx3

    Rodrigues shouldn't get more than $1.5Mand anything more than $1.75Mis flat out terrible.
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    May 22, 2022 at 12:34 p.m.
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    Why do the Leafs trade a corner stone player for another LD of which we have more than enough of, a mid prospect, and a late first? Doesn't address any of our needs, and we aren't making lateral moves
    May 22, 2022 at 12:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: LeafsDude
    Why do the Leafs trade a corner stone player for another LD of which we have more than enough of, a mid prospect, and a late first? Doesn't address any of our needs, and we aren't making lateral moves


    It's because the rules on here mean the Leafs have to lose every trade by a huge margin or it's unfair.
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    May 22, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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    Not a Leafs fan so im not exactly informed, but I think the Leafs are more in need of RHD so they would probably be more interested in that trade if Marino was involved instead of Pettersson.
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    May 22, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: WhyWait
    Rodrigues $2.925Mx3

    Rodrigues shouldn't get more than $1.5Mand anything more than $1.75Mis flat out terrible.


    I wasn’t sure on the value to keep him, because other teams might offer more
    May 22, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Chabotrrorr
    I wasn’t sure on the value to keep him, because other teams might offer more


    It's great if other teams offer him more. Hopefully a Metro contender. That means they will waste cap space on him and not be able to sign someone else.
    May 22, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.
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    Guys like Kapanen, Hymen and Connor Brown are what the Leafs desperately need right now ... or rather, needed last week.

    While the OTT 2nd is maybe a little much to ask I'd probably still do this because even if he Kapanen takes OTT to arbitration next summer they'd have him for one more year (which is perfect) or OTT moves him at the deadline and gets back a 2nd +. Hell they could move Kap and Brown together (salary retained) for a 1st and solid prospect.
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    May 22, 2022 at 1:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: TCMonkey
    Guys like Kapanen, Hymen and Connor Brown are what the Leafs desperately need right now ... or rather, needed last week.

    While the OTT 2nd is maybe a little much to ask I'd probably still do this because even if he Kapanen takes OTT to arbitration next summer they'd have him for one more year (which is perfect) or OTT moves him at the deadline and gets back a 2nd +. Hell they could move Kap and Brown together (salary retained) for a 1st and solid prospect.


    For a 1rst +++.
    May 22, 2022 at 1:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: TCMonkey
    Guys like Kapanen, Hymen and Connor Brown are what the Leafs desperately need right now ... or rather, needed last week.

    While the OTT 2nd is maybe a little much to ask I'd probably still do this because even if he Kapanen takes OTT to arbitration next summer they'd have him for one more year (which is perfect) or OTT moves him at the deadline and gets back a 2nd +. Hell they could move Kap and Brown together (salary retained) for a 1st and solid prospect.


    Trading for a guy in hopes of flipping him is such a losing mentality, and the Sens should avoid it. Sens shouldn't be trading for anyone if they don't see that player getting them closer to the cup. To me, Ottawa has plenty of guys who fill that role already. Kappy isn't a difference maker in the top 6, so I'm not interested at all.
    May 22, 2022 at 1:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Trading for a guy in hopes of flipping him is such a losing mentality, and the Sens should avoid it. Sens shouldn't be trading for anyone if they don't see that player getting them closer to the cup. To me, Ottawa has plenty of guys who fill that role already. Kappy isn't a difference maker in the top 6, so I'm not interested at all.


    I could see him developping well playing alongside Joseph and Stü
    May 22, 2022 at 2:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: Chabotrrorr
    I could see him developping well playing alongside Joseph and Stü


    He's heading 8th year as an NA pro, he's got well over 300 games in the NHL. we know what he is. He is a 3rd line player with elite straight line speed. He's a worse player overall than Connor Brown, and everyone seems to agree that Connor Brown isn't enough on that 2nd line (really the Stützle line is the 1st line next year imo).

    Sens will need one of the guys they have (Formenton, Brown, Joseph) filling out the top six after they make the vaunted top six addition. To me, Connor Brown is very firmly good enough to be that guy, but him needing an extension has me reluctantly in the "trade Brown" camp. The Sens have Jo and Forms in that same tweener zone already, they don't need another one, especially when both of those players can do the exact same stuff that Kapanen does (I'd argue Formenton already does it better).
    May 22, 2022 at 2:14 p.m.
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    He's heading 8th year as an NA pro, he's got well over 300 games in the NHL. we know what he is. He is a 3rd line player with elite straight line speed. He's a worse player overall than Connor Brown, and everyone seems to agree that Connor Brown isn't enough on that 2nd line (really the Stützle line is the 1st line next year imo).

    Sens will need one of the guys they have (Formenton, Brown, Joseph) filling out the top six after they make the vaunted top six addition. To me, Connor Brown is very firmly good enough to be that guy, but him needing an extension has me reluctantly in the "trade Brown" camp. The Sens have Jo and Forms in that same tweener zone already, they don't need another one, especially when both of those players can do the exact same stuff that Kapanen does (I'd argue Formenton already does it better).


    I love Brown. Just to make our lines more balanced, I just see Brown and Formenton in the bottom 6, and that’s why I think the Sens are looking for a guy like Fiala to fill out that top 6. I don’t want to give up our 7th overall, or any of our elite prospects, so I look for alternatives (Kunin, Kapanen, Comtois, Paul…)
    May 22, 2022 at 2:27 p.m.
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    I love Brown. Just to make our lines more balanced, I just see Brown and Formenton in the bottom 6, and that’s why I think the Sens are looking for a guy like Fiala to fill out that top 6. I don’t want to give up our 7th overall, or any of our elite prospects, so I look for alternatives (Kunin, Kapanen, Comtois, Paul…)


    I dunno I think you just gotta go for it. If you trade for an elite player, even if you end up losing the deal, you at least got the elite player. Trying to find middle ground options to address top 6 concerns is how you end up with moves like Signing Evgenii Dadonov or trading a 2nd for Derek Stepan.

    If the aim for you is to bet on internal solutions long term, I'd be looking at throwing piles of money at a guy like Perron or Giroux for 2 years. At least all it costs is money.
    May 22, 2022 at 4:05 p.m.
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    I dunno I think you just gotta go for it. If you trade for an elite player, even if you end up losing the deal, you at least got the elite player. Trying to find middle ground options to address top 6 concerns is how you end up with moves like Signing Evgenii Dadonov or trading a 2nd for Derek Stepan.

    If the aim for you is to bet on internal solutions long term, I'd be looking at throwing piles of money at a guy like Perron or Giroux for 2 years. At least all it costs is money.


    You’re right! I’d love Giroux, or even better Perron! Everybody knew Stepan was the wrong move and was hoping, fully knowing it wouldn’t work, that Dadonov would turn out.
    May 22, 2022 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Trading for a guy in hopes of flipping him is such a losing mentality, and the Sens should avoid it. Sens shouldn't be trading for anyone if they don't see that player getting them closer to the cup. To me, Ottawa has plenty of guys who fill that role already. Kappy isn't a difference maker in the top 6, so I'm not interested at all.


    I never said Kapanen was a top 6 winger and of course I'd rather have Giroux or Perron. But you have to look at all options because we might not land a big fish. And even if we did land Giroux I'd still make this trade because we aren't extending Connor Brown if he's pushing for 4x$5M (or in that range). If we pay him that we for sure run into cap trouble when Sanderson is due. Kapanen is a decent replacement for Brown who will be here in 23-24 even if he goes to arbitration next summer. That extra season gives our prospects another year if they need it, and that difference is worth it IMO.
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    May 22, 2022 at 8:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: TCMonkey
    I never said Kapanen was a top 6 winger and of course I'd rather have Giroux or Perron. But you have to look at all options because we might not land a big fish. And even if we did land Giroux I'd still make this trade because we aren't extending Connor Brown if he's pushing for 4x$5M (or in that range). If we pay him that we for sure run into cap trouble when Sanderson is due. Kapanen is a decent replacement for Brown who will be here in 23-24 even if he goes to arbitration next summer. That extra season gives our prospects another year if they need it, and that difference is worth it IMO.


    Do you see Joseph or Formenton cementing themselves as a top six guy next season? Because to me I see that as your 3rd line winger set up going forward. Plus Ridly Greig should be an NHLer by the start of 2023/24 season, so I think they'll be able to replace Connor Brown internally.
    May 23, 2022 at 6:39 a.m.
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Do you see Joseph or Formenton cementing themselves as a top six guy next season? Because to me I see that as your 3rd line winger set up going forward. Plus Ridly Greig should be an NHLer by the start of 2023/24 season, so I think they'll be able to replace Connor Brown internally.


    I agree that Greig could be ready to step into Brown's role by 23/24, but what the SENS have lacked for years is depth. I mean how many times has Nick Paul ended up in the top 6 for strings of games the last two years? Even Tierney played games on the 2nd line. So while we have the cap space to have a middle 6 guys on our 4th line I think we embrace it. As for Formenton and Joseph, this is a tough call. Looking at the growth of Batherson and Norris from 20/21 to 21/22 (Norris .63 p/gp to .83, Batherson .61 p/gp to .96) it's not crazy to think Forms could experience similar growth in his second full season. And yes, Joseph had a small sample size with the SENS but given the style of game he plays, and his 1.09 p/gp while doing it, it would weird to not give him the opportunity to prove it wasn't a fluke.
    MY BIG ISSUE is that deep down I feel giving up what it would cost to get Fiala wouldn't make us a playoff team next season, and would make us a worse team by 23/24 than we could've been had we just been patient for one more season. I'm terrified that pressure from fans will cause Dorion to do something stupid.
    May 23, 2022 at 7:07 a.m.
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    Quoting: Claesson4Norris
    Do you see Joseph or Formenton cementing themselves as a top six guy next season? Because to me I see that as your 3rd line winger set up going forward. Plus Ridly Greig should be an NHLer by the start of 2023/24 season, so I think they'll be able to replace Connor Brown internally.


    Ughhhh. I totally thought Kapanen was RFA at the end of 22-23, but he needs a new deal THIS summer. Disregard everything. Hahaha.
     
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