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Bit of a gamble

Created by: JeffW
Team: 2021-22 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2021
Published: Aug. 4, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
COL
  1. Kane, Evander ($3,500,000 retained)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (SJS)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$75,086,826$1,741,463$3,432,500$6,413,174
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 4
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-$1,391,304-$1,391,304
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$809,167$809,167 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$725,000$725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
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CELEBRINI IS A SHARK
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Not tryna be rude;

But it is bananas to think a player worth his cap hit is going to be retained at 50% for 4+ years

Kane has baggage but his performance is stellar. And we’re sending a 2nd? Completely terrible offer. Compher is a great offer alone but what your asking from the Sharks is very unrealistic (I AM NOT SAYING THE SHARKS ARE GONNA GET A FIRST + SPECs, that boat sailed a while ago).

You could definitely ask for retention realistically but that would increase our return as I think he’d be had cheap given the current climate (if he’s proven innocent). With retention you’re increasing the return whereas I’d bet the Sharks would do Kane for Compher 1 for 1 if that was all that’s out there.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
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More than a bit
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:44 p.m.
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Not tryna be rude;

But it is bananas to think a player worth his cap hit is going to be retained at 50% for 4+ years

Kane has baggage but his performance is stellar. And we’re sending a 2nd? Completely terrible offer. Compher is a great offer alone but what your asking from the Sharks is very unrealistic (I AM NOT SAYING THE SHARKS ARE GONNA GET A FIRST + SPECs, that boat sailed a while ago).


Nobody is going to want to touch Kane right now but you’re right about the proposed trade.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:45 p.m.
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CELEBRINI IS A SHARK
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Quoting: Xqb15a
Nobody is going to want to touch Kane right now but you’re right about the proposed trade.


Edited my comment after you quoted it! it’s assuming Kane is innocent because he’ll only be traded if he’s innocent

If he’s guilty he’ll be terminated and probably suspended.

Kane (with innocence): could be had for dirt cheap I would assume seeing as you’ll never get a better deal for top 6 player with Kane’s performance abilities (as obviously his baggage reduces his price drastically).
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:48 p.m.
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A bit? tears of joy
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:49 p.m.
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Edited my comment after you quoted it! it’s assuming Kane is innocent because he’ll only be traded if he’s innocent

If he’s guilty he’ll be terminated and probably suspended.

Kane (with innocence): could be had for dirt cheap I would assume seeing as you’ll never get a better deal for top 6 player with Kane’s performance abilities (as obviously his baggage reduces his price drastically).


If he is innocent I don’t think he is dirt cheap but even innocent he has some serious financial baggage to say the least.
Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:51 p.m.
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Edited my comment after you quoted it! it’s assuming Kane is innocent because he’ll only be traded if he’s innocent

If he’s guilty he’ll be terminated and probably suspended.

Kane (with innocence): could be had for dirt cheap I would assume seeing as you’ll never get a better deal for top 6 player with Kane’s performance abilities (as obviously his baggage reduces his price drastically).


Well when you read an article that says most of the sharks players want him gone, the allegations of gambling on his own games, his divorce, and his bankruptcy... they'd have to pay to move him, hence the 2nd
Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:52 p.m.
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I’ve heard MacKinnon is really hard core and pushes the whole team to succeed and put the team first. I dont think him and Kane are gonna get a long…
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:53 p.m.
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Forget the gambling. The other stuff that came out makes this a no go, and I don't care how good of a deal it is. Combine Kane's antics with the Zadorov comments about MacKinnon and you're basically trying to mix oil and water.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:55 p.m.
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Why would we want to save no money and trade Kane.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
I’ve heard MacKinnon is really hard core and pushes the whole team to succeed and put the team first. I dont think him and Kane are gonna get a long…


Dang you must have beaten me by seconds! Ha ha.
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 8:56 p.m.
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Dang you must have beaten me by seconds! Ha ha.


Yeah I just heard about Zadarovs comments today and I saw this and I was like “uh oh, that’s not gonna work”
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Aug. 4, 2021 at 9:01 p.m.
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Well when you read an article that says most of the sharks players want him gone, the allegations of gambling on his own games, his divorce, and his bankruptcy... they'd have to pay to move him, hence the 2nd


You’re the one acquiring him. Not because of the issues but because of the player.

If he is innocent half the things you said are gone (bankruptcy has been known for OVER a year and in the process of resolving/ working towards a fix both in court and with the Sharks/ NHL) (divorce happens to literally every other guy, additionally if it proves his wife’s lying doesn’t that mean Kane isn’t as bad as he’s made to be right now?) (innocence means he’s NOT gambling on his own games or NHL games)

The Sharks wanted to move on from Kane at the season end (it’s also been known for months). I highly suggest that Wilson was selling Kane at a deserving price (probably a first, and some prospects/ roster) for a above average top 6 winger with power style.

Obviously a fit wasn’t found and a price wasn’t met. But to assume that if a racist homophobic found a new contract/ home in Carolina but Kane can’t is hard for me atleast. I can then assume if the Sharks truly need Kane moved they would take the best offer. And that I would assume would be a 1 for 1 like Compher for financials for the other team. Or a pick/ spec of little quality value.

Kane is a bona fide top 6 winger with a play style like Wilson yet better talent wise and he’s got a fair cap hit with not ridiculous term.

I don’t think you’re wrong for thinking it’ll be hard to find the home, but to assume NO SINGLE TEAM, would pay a cheap return for a player like Kane (who’s obviously gonna be sold for dirt cheap) is pretty he’s to believe. Caps tight, assets are tight - buying a cheap top 6 winger who’s scored at .80 ppg across 4 years seems like a safe assumption at least for me (don’t take this long comment as anger lol, I laughed when I saw it got this long lmfao).
Aug. 4, 2021 at 9:48 p.m.
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We’ll give you kane for free but we aren’t paying a 2nd to get rid of him, we aren’t taking back a cap dump and we aren’t retaining a cent on him.
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