not sure why colorado would trade him, but you gotta think one of byfield or turcotte would have to be going the other way

I'm sending you 8th overall pick and good pieces,also taking back a bad contract. Byfield is out of question,Turcotte for Byram 1 for 1 maybe.

I don’t think any team other than Buffalo really values this draft. To put it in perspective if Bowen Bryan was draft eligible this season with the exact same stats he had in his draft eligible year easily he’s 1OA

you don’t trade an elite prospect that looks good at the nhl level so far and projects as a high end top pair guy for a pretty good prospect that projects as a 2nd line guy (the type of player available at 8oa) and a collection of mediocre players

edit: and byram is better than turcotte lol

In no way is Byram better than Turcotte,he's been pretty underwhelming to be honest,Colorado can get Guenther to play with Newhook at 8,or Edvinsson to replace Byram,they already have Makar and Girard as top end offensive defensemen,Clague is decent,Lemieux and Maatta add depth that Colorado lacks,taking back 6 mil of dead money when you have to sign Makar and Landy is good enough to consider this deal for Colorado.

Even Turcotte doesn't do it. If the Avs didn't have Newhook then maybe, but Byram is more valuable to their organization.

I also would say that Colorado probably doesn't have interest in moving Johnson, even though he's injury prone and makes too much money. They have loyalty to him. And he has reportedly agreed to waive his NMC, so the expansion draft isn't an issue either.

I get LA wanting Byram. He'd be a perfect fit there. I don't see it happening though.

I’d have to agree byram has more value I think turcotte peaks as a #2 c where byram peaks as a top pairing d

you don’t trade elite assets to dump money, you give picks. A 3rd pair D and 4th liner mean nothing, the avs could find them in free agency. It’s pretty unlikely guenther and edvinsson fall to 8th. Clague is okay, but nowhere close to byram. And byram hasn’t been underwhelming at all? He’s in the nhl before turcotte and D take longer to develop lol, if you offered 8oa+turcotte colorado might consider, but even then there’s no incentive to move a guy who will likely contribute in the top 4 on his elc for a team that’s hunting for a cup

There is nothing there that the avs benefit from as much as byram

Easily decline by them. Not a package that’s tempts them

Byrams underlying numbers are quite impressive for a 19 year old, his defensive is solid. So the comment from the OP about him being underwhelming is just not accurate

He is doing what the avs drafted him to do, play defense, and his defensive game already is impressive.

8 + Turcotte is an overpay,if Kings trade that they want an established player coming back,like Werenski,you're never gonna get such a return for Byram.

I don't know which is more fun to imagine . . . Byram to the Kings, or taking Salma Hayek to the beach on Friday.

The Avs passed on Turcotte for Byram so they aren’t trading him 1 for 1, the proposed trade is ridiculous. Byram is arguably in the Avs core of 5 untouchables, MacKinnon, Makar, Rantanen, Byram and Newhook. As @coga16 stated Byram’s underlying defensive numbers were spectacular for a 19yr old playing on a Stanley cup contender and he showed flashes with his offense. I can’t begin to stress what a ridiculous offer that is, Blake wouldn’t even foolishly offer some such nonsense. Let’s also just stop with the EJ cap dump trades. One of two things happens with him, he comes back and is the pk specialist dzone start dman, or he can’t and he goes on LTIR. COL isn’t so cash strapped they are making foolish trades trading teenage top pairing dmen. Literally ridiculous.

You know what else was ridiculous,Colorado defense against Vegas. You have to understand,Makar,Byram,Girard,Toews,Graves is too young of a defensive core to win now,and the Avs need to win now,if you're not ready to take risks,you're gonna continue losing to mediocre Sharks and Stars,or overrated Vegas teams.Not saying this trade is perfect for the Avs,but it gives solution to some of their problems,Maatta is a champion,experienced defenseman,Lemieux is better than anyone on your 4th line,you could flip the 1st to get a rental like Reinhardt,Clague is NHL ready,but could be used as a trade chip,don't act like the Johnson contract is not bad,you will find yourself in cap hell in heartbeat.

So Avs Defesnse lost them the series...it didnt, but you do you
So the solution is to add Maatta who is awfu and Clague who isnt an upgrade really over Connor Timmins....I assume you weremt aware the Avs didnt have Byram or EJ in that series. Just by having a full roster the Avs Dcore is better without trading anything. Crazy

Lemieux is not better than anyone on the Avs 4th line. Lemieux is a pretty bad hockey player who takes too many penalties and is a liability on the ice. Logan O'Connor alone is a must better 4th liner than Lemieux.

If Lemieux and Maata were so good you you would keep them, and as a Kings fan wouldnt be trying to hard to convince other people they are good and a team like the Avs need them. No man they arent good.

Congratulations on possibly the biggest BS analysis ever. Why is the world are you trying so hard to push a narrative you know isn’t true to justify an awful trade “Byram has been underwhelming”, “COL defense was ridiculous against VGK”, “Maata is a champion” and any other justification you have chosen to make. If Byram was so underwhelming as a 19yr old dman who was playing top 4 minutes before the cheap shot by Kolesar. Patrick Nemeth was ridiculous against VGK, Girard had a rough few games, but Byram and EJ didn’t even play and many thought they would have made a significant difference. Maata is trash pure and simple. But yeah what COL needs to do is trade a 19yr old top pairing dman on an ELC so they can dump one of their team leaders for cap space they a) don’t necessarily need b) could get other ways easier if they needed it c) so they could acquire a mediocre at best dman, a couple of bottom of the roster players that aren’t better than what they have and are more expensive too and the 8 OA in a draft they have traded out of to the point they have the fewest picks of any team and devoid of elite talent and depth. Seriously you know this is an awful trade but you do you.

You just said Lemieux is taking too many penalties,I guess you do you then...You think Colorado defense was not the reason they lost instead of winning in 5? game 3 blown lead with 5 minutes to go on horrible coverage goals,game 5 2-0 lead blown away on ridiculous turnovers,game 6 giving up 6 goals in an elimination game half of those on ridiculous turnovers and bad defensive plays. Vegas had trouble scoring against Montreal,Habs shot them down so they won,they didn't score more goals than Colorado,but they played better defense.

Brendan Lemieux was 3rd in the NHL in PIMS last year....yeah he takes too many penalties. I guess you dont know your own teams players?

My friend,Brendan Lemieux is top 5 in the league in drawing penalties,his own penalties come from fighting every 2nd game.

he still takes more penalties that he draws, So yeah he takes too many penalties

Not actual penalties,he's top 5 at drawing minor penalties,not including fighting,so you get more powerplays out of him that penalties by almost double.

Horrible coverage goals by Patrick freaking Nemeth who will never play for the Avs again. Before any of that the Avs lost games 3-5 primarily because they absolutely did not win any 50/50 plays for the puck particularly in their own end and their passing out of the zone which had been their bread and butter all year all the sudden became atrocious. Instead of transitioning the other way and changing on the fly they are changing with the puck in their own end zero transition because VGK has changed and has everybody back. Those coverage errors by Nemeth were the result of not winning those battles or inexplicably quiting on a play where the puck hit the cross bar. On top of that Byram and EJ didn’t play in the series and you are going to try and sell the solution to their problem is to trade them for Matt’s. ROTFLMAO. Outside of Byfield there isn’t a player on the Kings the Avs would consider even trading Byram for straight up. But the funniest thing is you play this song and dance about how Byram isn’t that good then drop him straight into the Kings top 4. What a joke of hypocrisy you are.