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Would Toronto fans be okay with this

Created by: Bdawwwgy1
Team: 2020-21 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 13, 2021
Published: Feb. 13, 2021
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Trades
BUF
  1. Abruzzese, Nick [Reserve List]
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. Scott, Ian
  4. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
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Scott OR Wall, and Abruzzese OR Abramov
TOR
  1. Hall, Taylor ($4,000,000 retained)
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2021
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24$81,500,000$76,527,417$1,487,500$4,470,000$4,972,583
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,050,000$3,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$874,125$874,125
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
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UFA - 1
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$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$805,833$805,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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UFA - 2
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$874,125$874,125
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UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
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UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
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$864,166$864,166 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 ($0$0$0$0)
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UFA - 1

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Feb. 13, 2021 at 3:36 a.m.
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probably in a heartbeat if they could fit it under cap. But they can't
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Feb. 13, 2021 at 6:21 a.m.
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LMFAO whyyyy
Feb. 13, 2021 at 7:09 a.m.
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No thx
Feb. 13, 2021 at 8:23 a.m.
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Yeah not in the slightest.
Feb. 13, 2021 at 9:28 a.m.
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I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Hall doesn't get moved until deadline if he gets moved. By then teams likely have between 10-15 games left in the season, Toronto has about 15. Leafs acquiring any player from the US have to quarantine the player for 14 days, that's 8 games for the Leafs after the deadline. Meaning they're paying for 7 GAMES of a player. They are not, & no team is not, paying 5 quality assets for a 7 game rental.

Deadline players this year will go for A LOT less than normal. I'd be shocked if Hall gets more than a 1st and a B prospect if he's moved.
Feb. 13, 2021 at 9:56 a.m.
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He is trolling. He knows we won't be able to even do this trade
Feb. 13, 2021 at 10:00 a.m.
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Yes if we could afford it
Feb. 13, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Hall doesn't get moved until deadline if he gets moved. By then teams likely have between 10-15 games left in the season, Toronto has about 15. Leafs acquiring any player from the US have to quarantine the player for 14 days, that's 8 games for the Leafs after the deadline. Meaning they're paying for 7 GAMES of a player. They are not, & no team is not, paying 5 quality assets for a 7 game rental.

Deadline players this year will go for A LOT less than normal. I'd be shocked if Hall gets more than a 1st and a B prospect if he's moved.


Different for US-based teams and Canadian teams (which is a shame, but it is what it is)

I could see a playoff-bound team in U.S. pony up more for 1/3 season of Hall plus playoffs.
Feb. 13, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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Different for US-based teams and Canadian teams (which is a shame, but it is what it is)

I could see a playoff-bound team in U.S. pony up more for 1/3 season of Hall plus playoffs.


When it's still only 10-15 games, not a chance he gets 5 pieces
Feb. 13, 2021 at 11:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

Hall doesn't get moved until deadline if he gets moved. By then teams likely have between 10-15 games left in the season, Toronto has about 15. Leafs acquiring any player from the US have to quarantine the player for 14 days, that's 8 games for the Leafs after the deadline. Meaning they're paying for 7 GAMES of a player. They are not, & no team is not, paying 5 quality assets for a 7 game rental.

Deadline players this year will go for A LOT less than normal. I'd be shocked if Hall gets more than a 1st and a B prospect if he's moved.


This is a fair point, but also I think overreaching. Teams don’t trade for rentals for the regular season. They trade for players for the playoffs and a chance at the cup. Sure, less games means less time getting used to players you would be playing with. But when you say “pay for 7 games” it’s incredibly disingenuous
Feb. 13, 2021 at 11:32 a.m.
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nah. that's a lot of futures to give up for a rental
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Feb. 13, 2021 at 11:47 a.m.
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This is a fair point, but also I think overreaching. Teams don’t trade for rentals for the regular season. They trade for players for the playoffs and a chance at the cup. Sure, less games means less time getting used to players you would be playing with. But when you say “pay for 7 games” it’s incredibly disingenuous


Players aren't paid for playoffs though. Hall has never proven to be a playoff performer that can put his team over the top. Nothing in playoffs are guaranteed so they're not overpaying
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Feb. 13, 2021 at 1:32 p.m.
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Players aren't paid for playoffs though. Hall has never proven to be a playoff performer that can put his team over the top. Nothing in playoffs are guaranteed so they're not overpaying


My point is that teams in general when acquire a rental are for the playoffs, not the regular season as much (some for sure, not saying nothing). This year, on this trade specifically, Tor would already have a spot locked up most likely. Whether Hall would play 7 reg season games or 20 would be largely irrelevant in the all Canada division. So you would be acquiring for the playoffs. Not saying that Tor should do it btw, just that the premise of players getting less this year because of less reg season games may not be totally accurate on why.
Feb. 14, 2021 at 12:52 a.m.
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As a Sabres fan, I’d pass
The low end 1st is the only thing remotely interesting to me
Rest of the pieces are just “meh”

Plus, I’m into helping the Leafs 🤣
 
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