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Trading for McDavid- Semi Realistic

Created by: capfriendlyaccount
Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 26, 2020
Published: Nov. 26, 2020
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The Avs are probably the only team in the league that could pull this off without running into significant cap issues and have enough value to trade. They still look like very serious cup contenders here, and if they could keep this team together, they would be the next dynasty.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
Trades
EDM
  1. Byram, Bowen
  2. Girard, Samuel
  3. Kaut, Martin
  4. Rantanen, Mikko
  5. 2021 1st round pick (COL)
  6. 2022 3rd round pick (COL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,251,387$0$2,500,000$1,248,613
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 6
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$874,125$874,125
C
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
C
RFA
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$700,000$700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA

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Nov. 26, 2020 at 4:58 p.m.
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First time he would be on a winning team
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:04 p.m.
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Thats a hillarious trade. Honestly, that is fair value for Mcdavid.
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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Thats a hillarious trade. Honestly, that is fair value for Mcdavid.


Thanks! And what makes it so funny?
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:16 p.m.
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Thanks! And what makes it so funny?


Just cause it would be so crazy if it ever happened
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.
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Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:26 p.m.
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I would want Makar, and also we don’t have the cap.
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:31 p.m.
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:35 p.m.
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Quoting: adlad98
Thats a hillarious trade. Honestly, that is fair value for Mcdavid.


Quoting: tsyls
Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.


It's not close to fair value. Rantanen is below average without MacKinnon, I doubt he's any better than Puljujarvi. And his contract is a silly overpay. Girard and Byram are good but both are LHD and the Oilers have TONS of LHD. I'm not high on Kaut and the 1st will be a 31st... not even close to fair value for the best player in the world.
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:39 p.m.
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Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.


Sabres could do it, Eichel +...same with Toronto Matthews +
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:47 p.m.
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It's not close to fair value. Rantanen is below average without MacKinnon, I doubt he's any better than Puljujarvi. And his contract is a silly overpay. Girard and Byram are good but both are LHD and the Oilers have TONS of LHD. I'm not high on Kaut and the 1st will be a 31st... not even close to fair value for the best player in the world.


You doubt rants is any better than jp?

There are hot takes and then there is this, jp hasn’t done a thing in the nhl yet, take the blinders off. Rantanen is a ppg player in this league and JP failed in his first Stint with the oilers. I can’t get over how big of a homer statement that is

Yikes
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:49 p.m.
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You doubt rants is any better than jp?

There are hot takes and then there is this, jp hasn’t done a thing in the nhl yet, take the blinders off

Yikes



http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=COL&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2017-10-04&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478420&p2=8477492&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

$9.2 mil for that ****? you can keep him. I wouldn't trade JP for MR 1-for-1 - there's this thing called the cap and Rantanen is dead weight at that money.
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:50 p.m.
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This proves nothing you know that right.

Then I’d you believe this stuff blindly then Drai is actually an awful player with how poor his defensive metrics are

So what is it...are you agreeing that drai is one of the worst defensive forwards in the league and his impacts on the ice offensive don’t cover how poor he brings a negative value on the ice?
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.
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This proves nothing you know that right.

Then I’d you believe this stuff blindly then Drai is actually an awful player with how poor his defensive metrics are

So what is it, m


Fact: Rantanen doesn't break even without MacKinnon.
Fact: MacKinnon does better without Rantanen's dead weight.
Fact: any player making $9.25M better pull his weight and Rantanen doesn't.

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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:53 p.m.
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Then drai has the worse contract in the nhl if you are calling rants dead weight
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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Fact: Rantanen doesn't break even without MacKinnon.
Fact: MacKinnon does better without Rantanen's dead weight.
Fact: any player making $9.25M better pull his weight and Rantanen doesn't.

tears of joy


So you can’t admit that drai is awful in the same context
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:54 p.m.
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This proves nothing you know that right.

Then I’d you believe this stuff blindly then Drai is actually an awful player with how poor his defensive metrics are

So what is it...are you agreeing that drai is one of the worst defensive forwards in the league and his impacts on the ice offensive don’t cover how poor he brings a negative value on the ice?


http://naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=EDM&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2019-10-02&td=2020-04-04&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8478402&p2=8477934&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0

One of these is not like the other.

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Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:55 p.m.
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So you can’t admit that drai is awful in the same context


Keep your overpaid crap. Rants for McDavid is like Edmonton offering Neal for MacKinnon.
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:56 p.m.
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You live in a fancy stats word of denial when it comes to your favorite team

If you can’t be critical of drai being a dumpster fire defensively and bringing negative goal impacts when he is on the ice

Then your opinion is irrelevant bc you can’t process this info
Nov. 26, 2020 at 5:57 p.m.
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Keep your overpaid crap. Rants for McDavid is like Edmonton offering Neal for MacKinnon.


Proving my point that you can’t admit it

You do you man, attacking when you cant even admit the same issues with your teams top players
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 6:13 p.m.
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Sabres could do it, Eichel +...same with Toronto Matthews +


Yeah but, this is more realistic, also, cap for Toronto doesn’t work long term, they’re already in a god awful spot now, try adding another 1.2m. Yes I know it’s likely that Toronto sends cap back, but idk. I think if this was to happen on edm end, it would be to bolster other positions. They arguably already have 3 top 6 C’s, don’t need to remove one and add another.
Nov. 26, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Sabres could do it, Eichel +...same with Toronto Matthews +


Yeah, but the Avs are the only team that can make it fit really well. It doesn't really make sense for Toronto and Buffalo since they need more depth, decimating their roster to get McDavid doesn't make sense.
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 6:14 p.m.
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It should be illegal to have the 2 best players in the league on the same team
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 6:19 p.m.
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Avs already have a 1C. No point in sacrificing the depth just to fill a role that's already filled.
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Nov. 26, 2020 at 6:27 p.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
Wow, the first McDavid trade I've seen thats actually close and is semi-realistic. I think the Avs are the only team in the league that could do it. I saw your other ones and they were meh, this is close. Honestly, I think it's a deal from EDM perspective if Kaut is swapped for Newhook and the 3rd is removed. Not sure how the Avs feel about that, but wow thats a haaaaaul and wow does COL ever look like a cup contender. Things could potentially get dicey cap wise next offseason, but nothing Sakic couldn't handle.


Thanks! I agree, I think this is the best one in terms of fit from both sides.
In terms of Colorado's cap situation, if you take out the Bellmare, Calvert, and Cole contracts and replace them with three 1.5 million dollar players, you save 4.4 million. Grubauer will probably want a 1.5-2 million dollar raise, and Landeskog will want a 2 million dollar raise. That's 3.5-4 million, so the rest of the money you saved you can use to give a raise to RFA's like Tyson Jost.
The other great thing for the Avs is that when MacKinnon's deal expires in 3 years, Erik Johnson comes off the books.

Man, I'm sounding like an Avs fan even though I'm a Jets fan haha
Nov. 26, 2020 at 6:28 p.m.
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Avs already have a 1C. No point in sacrificing the depth just to fill a role that's already filled.


Fair enough, I think they could probably afford it though. I think the team above is probably better than what you have right now.
 
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