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Yzerman buries the hatchet

Created by: drummerdao
Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 20, 2020
Published: Feb. 20, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Newhook, Alex [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
2021 3rd becomes a 1st if Athanasiou re-signs
COL
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
2021 3rd (VGK) goes to CO if Athanasiou fails to re-sign
2.
DET
  1. Chisholm, Declan [Reserve List]
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
3rd Round pick becomes a 2022 1st Round pick if Winnipeg makes Stanley Cup Finals and Mike Green plays >50% of the games
WPG
  1. Green, Mike ($1,500,000 retained)
3.
DET
  1. Vehvilainen, Veini
  2. 2020 6th round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2021 5th round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
CBJ send the 2021 5th round pick to DET if Daley plays >50% of the games left and CBJ makes the playoffs
CBJ
  1. Daley, Trevor ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (COL)
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G
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$775,833$775,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
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$4,000,000$4,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,100,000$1M)
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C
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.
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Avs decline that without a doubt. Newhook has more value than AA and then Detroit should also receive a conditional 1st? LOL
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.
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So wait you think you're getting Newhook AND a 1st for Athanasiou? Not a chance.
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Feb. 20, 2020 at 2:18 p.m.
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So say Colorado flipped Athanasiou to another team for two second rounders or something. That would mean he didn't sign with them and thus they would get to keep their first round pick. All I can say to that is man I wish you were the real GM.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 2:35 p.m.
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Columbus declines that trade very quickly. We aren’t trading Vehvilainen... he’s projected to be better then Merzlinkins. The reason he hasn’t been called up is so that he played in the AHL. You’d have better luck getting Korpisalo from Columbus.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.
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If Detroit deals AA to Colorado we probably get Zadorov+2nd in return. Newhook isn't happening. And fat chance of Green waiving for Winnipeg he's already being heavily linked to Washington.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: WellIDK
Avs decline that without a doubt. Newhook has more value than AA and then Detroit should also receive a conditional 1st? LOL


I think you miss read that. Wings get a 2021 first (not a deep draft so far) if Athanasiou re-signs with COL, otherwise they get a third. COL gets a 3rd in 2021 if Athanasiou doesn't re-sign.

So as it's shown, Athanasiou doesn't re-sign with Colorado. So Detroit gets Newhook and a 3rd in 2021 and Colorado gets the rental for Athanasiou, a 2021 3rd, and whatever return they get for dealing Athanasiou's rights in the off-season. With MacKinnon and Kadri out, having a top 6 scoring winger/center added will help put the pressure on the Western Conference for the top spot. With MacKinnon back, you could slot him on the 3rd line with Nieto and Bellemare. He'd be an upgrade over Kaut for playoff run. If he helps in the playoffs, then consider re-signing him. If not, get what you can for his rights.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Ajp_18
Columbus declines that trade very quickly. We aren’t trading Vehvilainen... he’s projected to be better then Merzlinkins. The reason he hasn’t been called up is so that he played in the AHL. You’d have better luck getting Korpisalo from Columbus.


With Jones out and a quickly thinning defense market, Daley would be good veteran to shore up the blue line. It's not like Peeke or Harrington are any better than Daley. They seem more interested in calling up Kivlenieks than Vehvilainen with Korpisalo out.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
If Detroit deals AA to Colorado we probably get Zadorov+2nd in return. Newhook isn't happening. And fat chance of Green waiving for Winnipeg he's already being heavily linked to Washington.


I don't know if Washington will add any beyond Dillon.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: SadlyAnOilFan
So say Colorado flipped Athanasiou to another team for two second rounders or something. That would mean he didn't sign with them and thus they would get to keep their first round pick. All I can say to that is man I wish you were the real GM.


Right. Let's be a little less optimistic for the return on Athanasiou's rights...

Trade Deadline
COL trades Newhook and 2021 3rd to DET
DET trades Athanasiou and 2021 3rd to CO

Off Season
COL trades Athanasiou rights and 2020 3rd to MTL
MTL trades 2020 2nd and 2021 5th to COL

So in essence:

COL gets rental use of Athanasiou, DET 2021 (VGK) 3rd, MTL 2020 2nd and 2021 5th
COL loses Newhook, 2020 2nd, and 2021 3rd.

So they get 3 draft picks and rental of a fast, goal scoring winger who's been playing on a team struggling to make plays in return for a good but not ready yet forward and one draft pick in each of the next two drafts.

But if Athanasiou is a key part to them getting to a finals or to the cup, they may decide losing the 2021 1st (which likely would be a late 1st) and not getting the 2021 3rd is worth keeping him for another run in 20-21.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 5:08 p.m.
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Quoting: drummerdao
I think you miss read that. Wings get a 2021 first (not a deep draft so far) if Athanasiou re-signs with COL, otherwise they get a third. COL gets a 3rd in 2021 if Athanasiou doesn't re-sign.

So as it's shown, Athanasiou doesn't re-sign with Colorado. So Detroit gets Newhook and a 3rd in 2021 and Colorado gets the rental for Athanasiou, a 2021 3rd, and whatever return they get for dealing Athanasiou's rights in the off-season. With MacKinnon and Kadri out, having a top 6 scoring winger/center added will help put the pressure on the Western Conference for the top spot. With MacKinnon back, you could slot him on the 3rd line with Nieto and Bellemare. He'd be an upgrade over Kaut for playoff run. If he helps in the playoffs, then consider re-signing him. If not, get what you can for his rights.


Well that makes it still a conditional 1st. It depends on the way you look at it. You could also say 'Detroit receives the 3rd instead when AA doesn't get resigned'

Anyway it's an awful trade for the Avs and the value is way off. Newhook is a top 3 Avs prospect and their projected 2C in a couple of years. If you want a trade involving AA and Newhook, Detroit has to add at least a 1st. AA doesn't have a lot of value and his defensive game isn't nearly good enough. Like someone said here: Zadorov and a 2nd would be possible, at least valuewise.
Feb. 20, 2020 at 5:18 p.m.
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With Jones out and a quickly thinning defense market, Daley would be good veteran to shore up the blue line. It's not like Peeke or Harrington are any better than Daley. They seem more interested in calling up Kivlenieks than Vehvilainen with Korpisalo out.


They call up Kivlenieks because they know how’s going to play 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 games in the NHL. Vehvilainen is playing 3 of 4 games in the AHL... he’s only 23 and having him play is better for his development then having him sit on the bench...
Feb. 20, 2020 at 5:30 p.m.
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I don't know if Washington will add any beyond Dillon.


I believe one insider with the Athletic and another insider said that the Caps are very interested in having Green back. Don't know if it will get serious. Just sounds like there's interest in bringing him back
 
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