That’s a easy pass by the avs, they aren’t trading top prospects or young players on the roster for 30 year old forwards

Not even close to the type of moves avs would do

Why not? Avalanche already have a very good young roster. They need experient talented guys. And they need a depth scorer. Their top line is the best of the entire league. But they need another elite player who can score to win a cup. Kessel is that guy. He raises in playoffs, when he's motivated. A fresh air in a very talented team would be enough to him get back on track.

Well done!

Tks, man =)

Agreed. That’s a good return for kessel imo. I’d probably role the dice on Jost instead of Compher but both work. Timmins is a wildcard due to injury but he looked great before missing last season. Hopefully he can get back to form

Jost could be the first try, indeed. As for Timmins, he's the best avs D prospect, after Makar. Maybe their best prospect at all. It's between him and Kaut, in my opinion.

not sure what that guy was complaining about. It's a 30 point player and a 2nd round pick prospect. You would think they were trading McKinnon.

I'd pass if I were Joe. Two guys who are going to be very useful players versus one who is likely to trend downhill and is prone to disappearing in important games. Avalanche will want to keep their very good young roster and add in free agency, and there would be better targets if they were looking at trades.

How is Phil prone to disappear in important games?

Bc they don’t know what they have yet with all their young players, why be impatient. Compher is a big all situations guy for them, Kessel isn’t playing pk or taking defensive zone draws etc, and Timmins is super high with mgmt, they have eyes for him to he a stud 2nd pairing damn. And you said if yourself when motivated. That sort of a process doesn’t mesh with avs and bednar. That’s a bad fit

3 years of kessell vs having to search for young players to fill those roles, it’d 1 step forward and 2 steps back. Example Barrie, if they move Timmins they don’t have that future piece in the system to take his minutes. Now they have up go search, trade or over spend on a ufa once Barrie is moved out for a fwd

If they were to try to trade it’s kerfoot and a 2nd type
Trade, using the draft pick to upgrade their 2nd line winger in kerfoot to Kessel. Much more than that then they will just use ufa to upgrade and not cost a thing

The fact you are calling Timmins a 2nd round prospect, you have no idea how good of a prospect Timmins is so your opinions are not valid

Having watched him he often doesn't do much when it counts. Effort isn't there. Not a good mesh for the Avs system.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Indeed we will.

everyone thinks their second round prospect is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But here are the facts. Roughly 25% of them will play 500 games.

I said that to my doctor once and he said "No.". I thought you had to agree to disagree. He said "I will not agree to disagree, I will disagree.". I said "What's the distinction? Isn't agreeing to disagree, essentially the same as disagreeing?" "NO" said he, "It's not". He says "If I agree to disagree it gives more credence to your side of the argument. It sounds like we have 2 separate arguments, both of which have merit. And that I'm saying that some of your points are valid and you're saying some of my points are valid." And he was saying no and that to do that would be as unconscionable to him as to agree with a Holocaust revisionist. And I said "Are you gonna bring up the Holocaust every time I get a physical?" This guy. He's got a tattoo, he's 96. I know his backstory.

So you don’t know how highly touted and regarded Timmins as a prospect, you just proved my point.

I'd have to agree to disagree with him on the premise that agreeing to disagree gives more credence to the other's side of the argument lol.

Man, ydk what you're talking about. Seriously.

But I know it. He's a very good two-way RHD prospect. And that's why I put him in my trade. Kessel has a 1 point per game season, even playing an average one. He loves to play in playoffs. So, my offer is pretty fair enough, indeed. Avs need an experient goal scorer player like him to support their top line.

you just failed to understand mine.
He is not the first nor the last "highly touted" second round pick.

Again you are trying to quantify a player based on his draft pick spot and how other players in that round don’t pan out, nothing about the player so clearly you don’t have any actual analysis on the player and just trying to make a judgement based on his draft spot,

You and this absurd claim that no one knows anything about a player other than you!
Your arrogance is just absurd.
There are many many many players who come out in the second round suppose to be the next best thing since sliced bread. And they too fail!
It's why they have a 25% rate. Because like every team out there, they hype up their 2nd pick because that's what they do to build interest and hype. It doesn't make them freaking Bret hull.
But go on. You can join the Kyrou band wagon in St. Louis too. He's the next best thing since the invention of bacon. Yet his stats at the NHL level were god awful and he'll be traded next year when Kim passes him on the roster and the team realizes he's not going to be what they built him up to be to the fan base. Much like Donato was in boston.
But hey, "you don't know who he is"

Hey guys, easy. We're here just to giving our opinions and have some fun. That's the point here. We're not even earning a penny to do so. Lol
So, let's drink some beers watching game 3 of the SC Finals, tonight.

I'd say it's you who hasn't a clue what you're talking about.