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ECF Finals is the Minimum Goal

Created by: shaker
Team: 2018-19 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 25, 2018
Published: Apr. 25, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
One Big Trade and a few UFA signings - not sure the trade would pass....
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,300,000
1$975,000
1$950,000
1$950,000
1$950,000
1$950,000
2$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,000,000
2$2,500,000
Trades
PHI
  1. Moulson, Matt
  2. O'Reilly, Ryan
Additional Details:
Rights to Lehner
BUF
  1. Hägg, Robert
  2. Neuvirth, Michal
  3. Rubtsov, German
  4. Simmonds, Wayne
Additional Details:
St. Louis 2018 1st round pick
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$78,000,000$64,410,833$0$4,645,000$13,589,167

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 4
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 2
$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 5
$2,350,000$2,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$962,500$962,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
$680,833$680,833 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
RW
UFA - 1
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 1
$2,350,000$2,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$2,345,000$2,345,000
RD
UFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
$975,000$975,000
LD, LW
UFA - 3

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Apr. 25, 2018 at 4:43 p.m.
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Obviously 3 mediocre goalies weren't enough.... Why don't you use tho pieces to get a proper goalies or top 6 winger instead of a third line center on a team decently deep in the center position
Apr. 25, 2018 at 4:43 p.m.
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happy
Apr. 25, 2018 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: YoPierreMcGuireYouWannaComeOutHere
Obviously 3 mediocre goalies weren't enough.... Why don't you use tho pieces to get a proper goalies or top 6 winger instead of a third line center on a team decently deep in the center position


OMW, that is a terrible trade for O'Reilly.
Lehner <=> Nuevirth
O'Reilly <= Simmonds, W. + St. Louis 2018 1st round pick
Moulson + 3rd or 4th = Zero
What is = Rubtsov, G. + Hägg, R.
Well that is my take on this trade and I am a Sabres fan. And you are correct it makes no sense for PHI to do this when they have 4 centers already. Maybe Nolan + ? for O'Reilly?
Apr. 25, 2018 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: GMTD
OMW, that is a terrible trade for O'Reilly.
Lehner <=> Nuevirth
O'Reilly <= Simmonds, W. + St. Louis 2018 1st round pick
Moulson + 3rd or 4th = Zero
What is = Rubtsov, G. + Hägg, R.
Well that is my take on this trade and I am a Sabres fan. And you are correct it makes no sense for PHI to do this when they have 4 centers already. Maybe Nolan + ? for O'Reilly?


I don't think the Value is far off. Hagg and Rubstov are pretty high end prospects, and O'Reilly's past, negative comments and 7,500,000 cap hit (which is not an over payment but is definitely not a cheap contract) shouldn't earn you more then a top 15 pick + Simmonds + 1 B+ level prospect (Rubstov) and an NHL ready prospect in Hagg
Apr. 25, 2018 at 5:31 p.m.
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Quoting: YoPierreMcGuireYouWannaComeOutHere
I don't think the Value is far off. Hagg and Rubstov are pretty high end prospects, and O'Reilly's past, negative comments and 7,500,000 cap hit (which is not an over payment but is definitely not a cheap contract) shouldn't earn you more then a top 15 pick + Simmonds + 1 B+ level prospect (Rubstov) and an NHL ready prospect in Hagg


OK, if you think it is fair I will retract my opinion from the Sabres point of view, I would welcome Simmonds, a young defenseman, a centerman prospect and the 1st. IMO Botterill would sell his 1st born to get that return for O'Reilly.
Apr. 25, 2018 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: YoPierreMcGuireYouWannaComeOutHere
I don't think the Value is far off. Hagg and Rubstov are pretty high end prospects, and O'Reilly's past, negative comments and 7,500,000 cap hit (which is not an over payment but is definitely not a cheap contract) shouldn't earn you more then a top 15 pick + Simmonds + 1 B+ level prospect (Rubstov) and an NHL ready prospect in Hagg


If the sabres dont get full, fair value for ROR they dont move him. No matter what "negative words" he said, hes still sogned for 5 years on a team that is grtting better, and he was still highly productive. Sabres are trading him to improve not to dump him. That said, Simmonds is still a decent return, I just dont see what he does for Buffalo. Like Okposo, by the time the Sabres are legit contenders, how old will these guys be. Thats why i firmly believe if the Sabres are to move ROR it needs to be for a guy in his early 20s or an A+ prospect as the main piece
Apr. 26, 2018 at 7:48 a.m.
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Really like your line of thinking but GMTD is on the right path. Neuvy doesn't = Lehner (4yr age difference + Neuvy is Mr. Glass). But with your set up, Moulson would be considered a "salary cap dump"...with that rationale the Flyers got a 1st(ish - depending on how much value you give to Schenn) for taking on Lehtera's salary last year. 5m salary would be in the 1st or 2nd rd draft pick territory. So, GMTD is correct that Rubtsov and Haag would be overkill.

Also, I don't see the Flyers adding De Haan as he's a LHD and there's already a log jam with Haag, Morin, Sanheim, Ghost, Provy. Gudas and Myers being the only RHD, I think they'd be more in the sweepstakes for Carlson(unlikely) or a trade for Zaitsev or another mid age RHD.
 
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