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Forum: Armchair-GM36 minutes ago
Thread: Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Lily is a bottom pairing D on the Leafs a team that didn't have a good D corps and he doesn't hit. Pachal and Kylington weren't bad playing 2nd pair. in Calgary Do we want better defensemen for the 2nd pair? Sure but Lily isn't the answer.

Hanley got waived by the Stars not the Flames. He was actually surprisingly good defensively in Calgary, not just on the bottom pair either. Is he a long term solution? No probably not but he's better and cheaper than Lily. Then there are all the prospects who are NHL ready or close.

On top of all that, Lily is an arbitration eligible RFA with a 1.5 mil qualifying offer or roughly double what Hanley and all the prospects make. Hard pass on Lily, he has almost no value to Calgary.</div></div>

Lily played the 3rd most minutes per game of all torontos defense men. Kylignton and Pachal were our bottom pair not our 2nd. Lily averaged about half a point a game, pair him with a defensive guy and he should be fine.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:40 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:48 p.m.
Thread: The Athletic recommended Markstrom trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Listen, I don't want to toot our own horn here but believe it or not, the collective CF opinion (minus the crazies of course) are far more realistic than some of the Athletic or other publications opinions when it comes to trade value. They aren't thinking values and projections like we do. Their jobs are in creating narratives and storylines. Not analyzing data for trades like many of us do. Julian is good at what he does but I wouldn't put much stock in his trade valuations. I get LAK needs a goalie and wants to go get a cup but you don't sacrifice literally one of the best prospects in the league to go get a 34 year old, sometimes elite, sometimes dog poopoo, caliber goalie.

Its crazy how many writers/podcasters are so eloquent with words and quite knowledgeable on hockey culture, NHL rules, hockey politics etc but are completely out to lunch on trade values. AND THATS OK. He doesn't spend hours upon hours like some of us do here on CF, refining trade value knowledge.</div></div>

The trade was proposed back in February, Markstrom had just stolen back to back games for the Flames then lost a goaltending duel 1-0 vs the rangers (score was 2-0 but one was a empty netter). At the same time the Kings were falling in the standings because of poor goaltending. A fan made up the trade in his Flames Mailbag segment, MacKenzie added 3 million in retention to it. Obviously the trade makes no sense today, but it was some what realistic when it was proposed.[/quote]