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Forum: Armchair-GM27 minutes ago
Thread: Jones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>At this point in time the Hawks need just about everything as they're in year 2 of the most extreme scorched earth rebuild the league has ever seen. Trading Jones does not mean you need to pair them with rookies at all, only that you'd have more cap and assets to bring in players that better fit the window when you're ready to be competitive.

Before we get too far down this road, how long do you think it will be before the Hawks are ready to compete for a cup? Genuine question.</div></div>

Good question and it's fair and I promise I will directly answer it. Before that I want to make sure we both understand that how long something takes osba different question than doing something right vs wrong. So regardless of 1 - 15 years... the time it takes is irrelevant if we're going to mess stuff up.

I think Kyle Davidson's own words speak best. It's not an immediate Cup Contender situation. We want to get better next year. We need to get to the end of the season with more hope of making the playoffs than we had last year.

Also, another Kyle Davidson quote from a previous TDL talking about Strome/Kubalik/DeHaan and why they were not traded away for futures...if our prices weren't meet, then we clearly thought more of these players than other teams did. That's why they're still on this team. We value them more.

I bring those two up because A.) Were developing our prospects with intent. Not just throwing players around for late 1sts. B.) ANYONE trading for Jones HAS to view him as a 1st pair RD that'll play 25 ATOI against opponents top lines. So you pay our price...or he just means more to us.

The rebuild will take 2-3 more year ls before playoff caliber. 4-5 more before hopes of a deep run.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 hour ago
Thread: Jones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>This offer gives you all the reason you need to trade him. Now you have an additional top 10 pick to grab a future top pair D, as well as the cap to add the two defensemen you're after on top of that. Plus robertson, plus liljegren...

Jones accepted a trade to Chicago because he wanted to compete for a cup in his prime. I have no doubts he'd be a cmgood soldier in the media, but no professional athlete in his position would be pleased by it.

This is where you're wrong, I'm thinking about exactly what would benefit the hawks with where they're at as a team, which should be all about maximizing your cap and assets to align with their cup window. That window is years away, and that is the point.</div></div>

I simply disagree with you and your approach and still curious if you even know what the Hawks need. I read your words, but the plan is poorly thought out. The Hawks have Vlasic, KK, and one of Del Mastro/Kaiser/Allan/Phillips on the left. Aka two 2nd year guys and a guaranteed rookie. Do you really want to pair those left D with more rookies? We want to develop our prospects right. Vlasic and Jones had good chemistry. Keep that going! KK/Murphy didn't get the whole season together due to injury, but keep KK with a consistent defrnse 1st physical veteran. Same with the 3rd pair. Go OVER PAY for Demelo/Tanev/Pesce/or heck Chatfield. Don't tear the D apart.

Jones was very honest in his exit interview. He wants to win, but even more...he just wants guys to play the TEAM game. He's tired of teammates on 1 year deals playing for their next contract vs the team plan.

Just like the Hawks previous cup run...they went out and overpaid for Brian Campbell because guys like Keith/Seabrook needed time to. develop. The Hawks have been down this road and Jones is exactly what they need. I'd like to have one more to be honest...just not Caleb
Forum: Armchair-GM14 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 7:21 p.m.
Thread: Would you Opinions from both sides please
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>SKA is very particular about who they put on their KHL roster and very methodical about development. Think of the Blackhawks in the cup era, how many kids couldn't crack the lineup simply because they were kids, how many prospects were moved prematurely because they couldn't get ice time under Q. That is SKA. Michkov didn't get any time either, he essentially had to demand a loan to get KHL ice time. Also, Demidov won a spot on the KHL roster out of camp in the 22-23 season OVER Michkov.

KHL clubs are mostly run by oligarchs and the government. They run everything with an iron fist.</div></div>

I don't follow the KHL super closely, but I thought I heard somewhere that the Michkov training camp stuff was trying to get Michkov to sign a longer term deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:23 p.m.
Thread: Would you Opinions from both sides please
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>No</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>Probably not. By the time the Hawks are competitive, Bedard is still in his early 20's and McDavid will have bolted at the first chance to be a UFA rather than waiting on the Hawk prospect pool to mature. Both players are in a good spot for where they currently are at.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulKorea</b></div><div>Nope. I love McDavid, but I'll take the player that's 8 years younger and making 11 million less.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>I think you are going to get a "No" from most, if not all, Hawks fans, and anyone who says otherwise doesn't realize what they are talking about. No doubt, McDavid is F#$%ing amazing, but Age, cap hit, and control play a huge role in this debate. Bedsy is just getting started and we are in a rebuild. There is no reason for CHI to even consider something like this.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snowhawk18</b></div><div>Both teams decline.</div></div>

Curious to get you guys thoughts on a slightly different subject. Powers wrote an article in which Roman Kantserov (his interpreter really) mentions that St. Petersburg SKA doesn't appear to be all that willing to let Demidov go to the NHL. How would this...IF TRUE...factor into your draft decision at all?

"Unfortunately, there are some circumstances with St. Petersburg SKA. I would say they’re creating some hurdles for him to come to the NHL and to be selected in the draft. So hopefully it’s all going to be resolved and he get his chance to play in NHL."

link to article below
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5493145/2024/05/15/blackhawks-roman-kantserov-nhl-khl/
Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 12:30 p.m.
Thread: Canes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FoxYou727</b></div><div>remove Reichel and Hawks say yes</div></div>

You're correct on dropping Reichel. I go back/forth on whether the Hawks say yes to accepting KK for a 1st. There are some ironic things that make this interesting. Hawks have (2) years until they'll need to free up cap space. Ironically...it'll be 2 years before KK's buyout jumps from 1/3 to 2/3. So we can give him a chance for 2 years and if it doesn't work out...he'll be bought out and the cap space doesn't really hurt that bad. That stuff all works in favor of the trade (of course like you mentioned no Reichel), but this is counter to what Kyle Davidson was talking about. Getting better and bringing in some veterans. That's not KK. Ultimately, I don't think they pull the trigger AND I don't this CAR would trade away KK just yet either. They'll go do exactly what I outline above too. Play him 2 more years and if he doesn't get better...THEN they'll buy him out.