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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:27 p.m.
Thread: Bringing in marner
Thanks for proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the Marner-to-Los-Angeles idea is brain-dead and guaranteed to fail.

The defense is miles worse than the defense that just got overrun by Edmonton (Clarke for Spence isn't much of a downgrade while Clarke learns his craft, but Klingberg for Roy is astronomically worse and gastronomically revolting) and there isn't any cap space to acquire some grown-ups to make DuBois a contributing member of society. Imagine, for example, that instead of Marner, we had Byfield - Kopitar - Kempe, Moore - Danault - Arvidsson, and Trenin - DuBois - Fiala, with Spence instead of the Klingon. Moreover, giving up those two draft picks, and essentially taking a pass on this year's draft, is suicidally short-sighted.

But I'm sure that some of your Toronto brethren will keep touting this idiocy.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:30 p.m.
Thread: Would be funny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>I don't necessarily agree with that. Columbus could very easily decide:

1) They simply like next year's draft better

2) They want to have the flexibility to be able to use another 2nd rounder as trade capital, so they defer this one to Philly and use their 2025 2nd as trade bait

I'm inclined to agree that the more likely outcome is them saying "this pick is pretty high and there's a guy in that range we like, lets use the pick", but I wouldn't call it 1%</div></div>
1) No, Columbus could <strong>NOT</strong> decide, let alone very easily decide, that they simply like next year's draft better -- no one in his right mind would make that premature decision about next year's draft based upon this year's 17-year-old pool. And even if they did, inasmuch as there is an 87.5% chance that next year's second will be later than this year's, how in the world could they decide that some kid they're going to pick at #42 or #45 or #48 a year from now will be worth more than the kid they pick at #36 this June?!?!? Moreover, even if the pick is the same or even earlier, time has a value.

2) Your second statement that having "another 2nd rounder as trade capital" might be appealing to Columbus doesn't jibe well with their building status.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:54 p.m.
Thread: Necas Value
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ste_Catherine_Street</b></div><div>Nono, I didn't mean to dismiss at all. That's pretty good. Its a 2d line winger on a good team.
Hold on though. Yes, on surface Caufield and Suzuki are the only ones with better numbers, but Dach, Newhook, Slafkovsky still have higher ceilings in my opinion (although Newhook maybe has fewer chances and Dach is injury prone, yes) <strong>I'm not sure what you're saying on this point.</strong>
My initial feeling was 'mid-round'. I was thinking 3rd or 4th maybe. 2nd would be too much for me.</div></div>
My second sentence was merely reinforcing my first, with no greater meaning.

Remember that we're talking about next season. You may be right that Necas is a "2nd line winger on a good team," but many teams have nearly equivalent first and second lines. (We might play him on our "first" line even though we have Troy Terry to play the other RW position; the same is true, I think, of Edmonton, to cite just one example.) You're going to be playing Necas at #1RW <strong>now</strong>, in 2024-2025, and we're talking about trade value in this off-season. I think that you might have to pay another second to land Necas.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:19 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:55 p.m.
Thread: 2024 Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ecupirate07</b></div><div>Canes aren’t rebuilding</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JPizzle13</b></div><div>Right, but they don't have the cap space for Necas. Struble &amp; Heineman are both NHL ready and can plug holes lower in their lineup for cheap, and they can flip those picks for other assets.</div></div>
What "holes lower in the lineup" are Heineman and Struble going to plug? I've seen a few Carolina ACGMs that convince me that once Necas is moved, the Hurricanes will have the cap space to sign any two of their four UFA LWs (including the inexpensive Martinook and Noesen) to add to Svechnikov and the two fourth-line LWs on the roster now, and Struble won't be useful unless Skjei leaves and may not be necessary even if he does.

I think Carolina would have no qualms about declining that offer. Even if they get offers from other teams of only one player plus a first, the player is likely to be more valuable than two filler guys.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:31 p.m.
Thread: DRAFT CATTON AND ARTAMONOV PLUS DUBOIS TRADE BEFORE JULY 1 AND STAMKOS SIGNING
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sk1p1o</b></div><div>I love Pelletier but if he’s the only difference between 9 and 5 I’m taking that deal and running to the table. I’d even give you Mangiapane retained too if you wanted him.

I don’t think it’s necessary for either team. In my opinion, Lindstrom will be available when it’s Montreal’s turn to pick and he’s the obvious pick. Ottawa, Utah and Seattle all probably want to draft a Defenseman this cycle. Especially if Parekh, Buium, and Dickinson are available. There are just better players available before Calgary’s pick.</div></div>
Don't forget that we Anaheim fans are lusting after Levshunov if Chicago doesn't take him and there's also Silayev, not to mention the Demidov wild card. I think that there's an appreciable chance that Montreal will have a choice between the two forwards.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:25 p.m.
Thread: 0 to contender
Utterly uninformed. Every trade is delusional.

Matheson isn't the type of defender that fits Toronto, so the Maple Leafs wouldn't trade you that package even if you took Anderson out. With him in the deal, Toronto would be taking on about $7 million extra in cap. You should do some research on Toronto's cap situation and try to figure out why Maple Leafs fans are so eager to trade Mitch Marner.

Vancouver isn't about to trade you a first-pairing defender for a #2 and a #3 defenseman, and thinking that Gallagher has positive value is ignoring reality -- in his last 5 seasons (264 games), he's averaged half a point a game and hasn't achieved that number in the last three. Nobody is paying $19.5 million (cap AND compensation) for a declining 32-year-old third-liner and giving you anything for him, least of all a second-round draft pick.

Tampa just paid a second for two seasons of 34-year-old Ryan McDonough. Believing that the Lightning will pay one of their few first-round draft picks for one season of 34-year-old David Savard to play on the third pair behind Sergachev and Cernak is just cuckoo.

You can make a colorable argument that Barron is worth a second. One season of Dvorak on his 20% underwater $4.45 million contract is worth no more than a fourth.

If Anaheim puts Zegras on the market, which is highly doubtful, the asking price will be an impact player or prospect plus a top-half first; you might get away with sending Reinbacher with your own 2025 second or Mailloux with a late first like the Calgary/Florida pick.

Speaking of Mailloux, he would be a nice prospect to add to Jamie Dysdale and Oliver Bonk plus the other 4 RhD prospects Philly has in their system, but not at the cost of a 334-game veteran who's only 24 years old and has been improving each season that he's been in the NHL (including the last two, when he appeared in every single game, and the last one, in which he scored 50 points).