so why would colorado take in a defenseman who is worse at defense and offense?

Graves was excellent during his time in Colorado, don't you recall?

Thoughts on this team? There's still 6 million to add a starting goaltender, if you want.

Nice troll job.
Really like those TOR and EDM moves. I'm sure their fan bases will totally agree with you on here.
Keep smoking, eventually you'll see Jesus or forget the wifi password. Either or really.

My thoughts are that most of these trades are pure delusion in favor of PIT.

I feel these are the kinds of moves you have to make though if you want to win, buying low on other teams' unwanted pieces and signing a bunch of unqualified RFAs.

I feel Edmonton needs a change because, they want players who are suitable for the playoffs and most TOR fans told me they would just be content with getting cap space for 16.

No one is taking Jarry's contract without significant salary retention.

Well then we might as well keep Jarry then as there is still 6 million available.

Even between June 2015 to March 2017, Rutherford made almost 100% perfect moves and he wasn't robbing teams this blind. Either you are trolling or you have a poor grasp on the trade market.

Remember the Scuderi for Daley trade? That was a pure robbery from the moment it happened.

The Kessel trade, well, he has a full NMC so the return was limited, but we didn’t give up much for him either. So to get Marner from TOR would be the same type of story.

The Rakell + Acciari trade would be the same kind of idea as Hagelin for Perron.

excellent then doesn't mean he's good now, as you know intimately.

Sutter for Bonino might have been the best deal. Schultz was a great value trade. Cole for Bortuzzo ended up good. Even Lovejoy for Despres was great because Despres LTIRetired not long after.

The guy is only 28, he’s still in his prime. PIT wasn’t the right fit cuz of their system and the players around him, but he could easily turn the corner going back to COL like Jack Johnson did

Yes exactly, but what stood out to me during those years was we seldom gave up top prospects & picks, unless it was to acquire a star player like Kessel who still went for less than his usual worth.

Most of the time, we were picking up under-the-radar or underperforming players but they worked with us cuz they fit our vision.

Rutherford drafted almost no one of value. Kapanen and Sprong were decent depth forwards, but also neither were especially late picks. Shero left a much better than rated prospect pool that consistently was ranked in the bottom 10 or 15 in the league yet yielded a lot of quality: Guentzel, Maatta, Dumoulin, Rust, Sheary, Murray, etc. was easily a top 10 prospect pool. Those players helped tremendously with winning the two SCs.

Exactly, one of my followers said that although he left in a disgraced manner, Ray Shero & John Hynes had a very important role in the Penguins back-to-back cup runs. They didn't have many firsts besides the Maatta & Pouliot picks, but they found so many lower picks that turned out to be really important contributors.

I'd say that is one thing that caused PIT to slip post 2017. The first was they started to trade first round picks for players not worth that value such as Reaves, Kapanen & others, but they also didn't draft well, or at least not many young players have been incorporated into the team like in 2015. A lot of the prospects from 2015-2019 should be contributing with the first team now, but they're not.

I wouldn't be opposed to it as a potential framework from the Avs PoV but the Pens would still need to add imo.

Fair enough, I guess Girard is a few years younger anyway.

Don't think it would be a lot. Bottom end roster player, low end prospect, low end pick or pick swap maybe, something like that.

That’s fair. What about Acciari? He’s coming off a bad season but maybe the type of bottom 6 guy you guys may want?

@juandamiennebraska Thoughts on this team?

As much as I’d love to have Nugent-Hopkins and Marner for those prices, there’s just not a world where EDM or TOR would move them for what you’ve offered. They decline those trades in a million different universes lol.

Acciari is probably too expensive for the Avs bottom 6 going forward. Next year's bottom 3 for the Avs likely consists of ELC & league min contracts vets, and Acciari would likely be in that bottom 3. I've no idea how Puljujarvi looked for you guys but he could be a possibility as a reclamation project (am surprised the Avs didn't look at him last year tbh). No idea how he's valued in Pittsburgh though. Would make it only a minimal cap add for the Avs which is about as much as they could afford.

Yeah absolutely I wouldn’t mind sending you Puljujarvi. He’d be a good player for Colorado’s bottom 6, honestly.