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Created by: RClay321
Team: 2024-25 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: May 7, 2024
Published: May 7, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$875,000
1$875,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. Krug, Torey ($3,000,000 retained)
2.
VGK
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (STL)
  2. 2026 4th round pick (STL)
3.
STL
  1. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$73,329,149$0$1,122,500$14,370,851
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 7
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$550,000$550K)
C
RFA - 3
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 7
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$852,500$852,500
C
RFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$412,500$412K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,294,150$2,294,150
LD
RFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000
LD
RFA
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
RD
RFA - 2

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May 7 at 4:59 p.m.
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Bcarlo25
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there's just no scenario where the bruins take krug.
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May 7 at 5:15 p.m.
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That’s definitely an overpay for Hague
May 7 at 6:02 p.m.
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I see zero world in which Washington or any other team for that matter doesn't need relatively significant compensation to take on Hayes
May 7 at 6:17 p.m.
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If you changed the pick going to Vegas to the late 2nd at absolute highest (probably more like our 3rd) and kept Kessel down on the 3rd pairing where he belongs, I'd sign on for all of this.
May 7 at 7:03 p.m.
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If you changed the pick going to Vegas to the late 2nd at absolute highest (probably more like our 3rd) and kept Kessel down on the 3rd pairing where he belongs, I'd sign on for all of this.


Kessel is better than Faulk
May 8 at 2:23 a.m.
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Kessel is better than Faulk


Heh. It's astonishing that so many people say this. Faulk played hurt most of the season. Kessel simply isn't that good. At least not yet. About any numbers you wanna go to demonstrate that. He was the worst puck handling Dman we played last season by a considerable margin and our system requires puck possession.

Faulk is probably the top bounceback shot we have, especially if we can get him away from Krug. Maybe Schenn of we can slide him over (and he gets some contacts or something). But I'd bet on Faulk to rally first.
May 8 at 7:10 p.m.
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Heh. It's astonishing that so many people say this. Faulk played hurt most of the season. Kessel simply isn't that good. At least not yet. About any numbers you wanna go to demonstrate that. He was the worst puck handling Dman we played last season by a considerable margin and our system requires puck possession.

Faulk is probably the top bounceback shot we have, especially if we can get him away from Krug. Maybe Schenn of we can slide him over (and he gets some contacts or something). But I'd bet on Faulk to rally first.


Faulk was healthy the entire first half of the year, idk where everyone gets that he played hurt all year. He was terrible when healthy and was terrible last year too. Defensively he is a turnover machine and just isn't good. He had one decent year and grew a mustache and everyone fell in love with him. Kessel passed him on the depth chart and he is still developing
May 9 at 12:33 a.m.
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Faulk was healthy the entire first half of the year, idk where everyone gets that he played hurt all year. He was terrible when healthy and was terrible last year too. Defensively he is a turnover machine and just isn't good. He had one decent year and grew a mustache and everyone fell in love with him. Kessel passed him on the depth chart and he is still developing


I didn't say he played hurt all year. I said most. Which is accurate, as he first picked up a knock around Thanksgiving, maybe just after. And saying he's had only one good season in STL is not true, while we're at it.

Dude, Kessel was the worst turnover machine of all Blues D who played this season. By a good margin. Well beyond Krug and Schenn, who were a bit past Faulk. And he barely touches the puck compared to Faulk. The numbers make this very clear, plus he offered next nothing offensively.

You can prefer Kessel all day everyday, and that's fine. But if you want to bash someone for horrific puck play, that person needs to be Kessel. Not sure how anyone could have missed it, to be frank.
May 11 at 11:31 a.m.
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I didn't say he played hurt all year. I said most. Which is accurate, as he first picked up a knock around Thanksgiving, maybe just after. And saying he's had only one good season in STL is not true, while we're at it.

Dude, Kessel was the worst turnover machine of all Blues D who played this season. By a good margin. Well beyond Krug and Schenn, who were a bit past Faulk. And he barely touches the puck compared to Faulk. The numbers make this very clear, plus he offered next nothing offensively.

You can prefer Kessel all day everyday, and that's fine. But if you want to bash someone for horrific puck play, that person needs to be Kessel. Not sure how anyone could have missed it, to be frank.


Faulk had 35 giveaways in 60 games (30 in the defensive zone) and Kessel had 19 in 39 games played (15 in the defensive zone). One was a rookie and Kessel played 2nd pair over Faulk at the end of the year
May 11 at 11:23 p.m.
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Faulk had 35 giveaways in 60 games (30 in the defensive zone) and Kessel had 19 in 39 games played (15 in the defensive zone). One was a rookie and Kessel played 2nd pair over Faulk at the end of the year


Heh. Now do it per 60 instead of by games, which we both know is misleading because Kessel played five minutes per game less.

IIRC Kessel's D zone giveaways per 60 was around 1.3-1.4 and Faulk's was around .9 per 60. And half of Kessel's minutes were 3rd pairing. And he carries the puck way less than even a partially hobbled Faulk. He was easily the worst puck handling Blues D last season.
May 12 at 1:02 a.m.
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Heh. Now do it per 60 instead of by games, which we both know is misleading because Kessel played five minutes per game less.

IIRC Kessel's D zone giveaways per 60 was around 1.3-1.4 and Faulk's was around .9 per 60. And half of Kessel's minutes were 3rd pairing. And he carries the puck way less than even a partially hobbled Faulk. He was easily the worst puck handling Blues D last season.


like I said, one is a rookie and the other is a 32 yr old overpaid vet. Kessel took his spot by the end of the year and Krug looked decent playing next to Kessel over Faulk. Being a defenseman includes a lot more than just moving the puck and points. Faulk is terrible by every defensive metric.
May 12 at 1:45 a.m.
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like I said, one is a rookie and the other is a 32 yr old overpaid vet. Kessel took his spot by the end of the year and Krug looked decent playing next to Kessel over Faulk. Being a defenseman includes a lot more than just moving the puck and points. Faulk is terrible by every defensive metric.


At 5V5, Faulk had the highest xG share of all our Dmen last season. He also easily outdid Kessel in takeaways per 60 and was ahead of him in hits per 60.

Furthermore, Krug had a 42% goal share with Faulk, and a 36% goal share without him. Meanwhile, Faulk had a 54% goal share playing without Krug. And Krug's goal share with Kessel was lower than his goal share with Faulk.

Look, I get you have a major problem with Faulk (and a major Kessel blind spot), but you're making a lot of claims that are definitely not supported by stats.
 
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