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Not quite a rebuild

Created by: The420SusMan69
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2024
Published: Feb. 22, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Basically targeting younger players instead of draft picks.
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Barron, Justin
Additional Details:
1-3 year extension in place (1-2 million)
MTL
  1. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
  2. 2026 3rd round pick (VAN)
2.
CGY
  1. Lundkvist, Nils
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,250,000 retained)
3.
CGY
  1. Lundell, Anton
  2. Sourdif, Justin
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (FLA)
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (FLA)
  5. 2025 3rd round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Hanifin, Noah ($2,475,000 retained)
Additional Details:
7x7 extension
4.
CGY
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. 2024 6th round pick (NSH)
EDM
  1. Rooney, Kevin
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (FLA)
5.
CGY
  1. 2024 4th round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
(obviously they won't have Carter Hart back for awhile/ever)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the FLA
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$74,815,832$0$3,902,500$8,684,168
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,900,000$4,900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$775,000$775,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1

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Feb. 22 at 10:01 p.m.
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You have a good start for the Florida trade (especially if we lose either Forsling or Montour this offseason) but Lundell isn’t being trade.
Feb. 22 at 10:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Rolfadinho
You have a good start for the Florida trade (especially if we lose either Forsling or Montour this offseason) but Lundell isn’t being trade.


is the value ok? or is it just Lundell himself being the issue
cuz you don't rly have anything of equal value to replace him with
Feb. 22 at 10:05 p.m.
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Ya your not close with the barron trade
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Feb. 22 at 10:07 p.m.
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Quoting: AdamL188
is the value ok? or is it just Lundell himself being the issue
cuz you don't rly have anything of equal value to replace him with


Value wise is ok, but Lundell is an important piece to our now & future. Not certain who to replace him with, but I don’t expect him to be traded.
Feb. 22 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Black61
Ya your not close with the barron trade


i asked the MTL subreddit cuz I didn't know his value lol, they told me abt a 3rd round pick
Feb. 22 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Rolfadinho
Value wise is ok, but Lundell is an important piece to our now & future. Not certain who to replace him with, but I don’t expect him to be traded.


I guess it isn't meant to be
Feb. 22 at 10:32 p.m.
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Barron cost Coronato. Nothing less
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Feb. 22 at 10:42 p.m.
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Quoting: AdamL188
i asked the MTL subreddit cuz I didn't know his value lol, they told me abt a 3rd round pick


Nils Lundkvist is the most recent young RHD for picks trade I can think of and brought a 1st and 4th.
IF Montreal were to trade Barron for pick(s), it should be for a 1st at a minimum.

There are a lot of fans who are not on board with proper rebuild and development, that have no patience for grooming a young player into an effective NHLer over time.
They might be willing to throw away any player not having an immediate impact in order to rush someone else into that spot (Mailloux and Reinbacher) and those will be the same fans who complain when we trade a promising young defenseman for the next Gomez or Drouin, while that defender goes on to realize their potential elsewhere.
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Feb. 22 at 10:44 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
Barron cost Coronato. Nothing less


Quoting: ricochetii
Nils Lundkvist is the most recent young RHD for picks trade I can think of and brought a 1st and 4th.
IF Montreal were to trade Barron for pick(s), it should be for a 1st at a minimum.

There are a lot of fans who are not on board with proper rebuild and development, that have no patience for grooming a young player into an effective NHLer over time.
They might be willing to throw away any player not having an immediate impact in order to rush someone else into that spot (Mailloux and Reinbacher) and those will be the same fans who complain when we trade a promising young defenseman for the next Gomez or Drouin, while that defender goes on to realize their potential elsewhere.


oh ok, your subreddit just despises him I guess
Feb. 23 at 5:26 a.m.
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Flyers don't need a goalie. Erssons net with Petersen the rest of the year and Errson with Petersen/Kolosov/Sandstrom backing next year.
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Feb. 23 at 9:40 a.m.
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if you gave the flyers a 4th they might take vladar. they do not need a goalie
Feb. 23 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: AdamL188
oh ok, your subreddit just despises him I guess


he is a talented but not completely developed player, with at least a year to go before we know for sure if he can secure his potential as a 2nd pairing D (he has shown flashes) or if he stalls and ends up as a 6-7 D or bubble player. because he is young enough, cheap enough, and with time to grow, no need for habs to move him unless its an overpay
 
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