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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:43 p.m.

Thread: Guentzel and Marner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Meadowportage</b></div><div>dont mind this trade for the oil. campbell still has 3 years so we would have to pay a lot.</div></div>
It's too much. Edmonton probably wouldn't pay more than the 1at to move Campbell, especially if they're being asked to take another (less) bad contract in return.

Ceci has more value than Vejmelka, so why is Edmonton kicking in a B prospect and two 2nd's? They're better off buying out Campbell, trading Ceci for a pick and re-signing Pickard. The result would be better goaltending, better cap situation and they get to keep their four best non-roster assets.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:35 p.m.

Thread: 24 25 Oilers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Connor_McJesus_97</b></div><div>Im an Oilers fan and you have to give Sharks a 1st at least and perhaps a young player aswell. Like Lavoie, Broberg or Borgault.</div></div>

Broberg isn't going anywhere, especially in a cap dump move.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:32 p.m.

Thread: retooling

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PurpleHippo</b></div><div>There are better players in FA that will cost the same AAV that we can get without giving up assets.
Colemans contract also isn't very appealing, wouldn't say he's a cap dump but 3 more years for someone who is going to be 33 y/o next year isn't that appealing to trade for.</div></div>
Coleman scored 30 this year, but the past 2 years had fewer than 40 points. That's relevant because he has 3 years left on his deal.

Considering his age, that's not a contract I'd want on the books.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:01 p.m.

Thread: trading mcdonald to make room for draisaitl

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SharkTank</b></div><div>Yeah, sure. 🙄</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zegrasnoob</b></div><div>This trade will never happend... who wants to trade the third all time best player ?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Oops! I saw the Mittelstadt signing and accidentally swore! I would be so mad if we gave Mittelstadt 10M! You were joking with that, right?</div></div>

Flames fan.

:awesome

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:37 p.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FullSend</b></div><div>You forgot about Brown's bonus money and would much rather go for a superb defensive dman like Tanev or Roy and let Montour get his money elsewhere, we're not giving him that 6 mill.</div></div>
Nurse needs a partner that can move the puck. Tanev can't do that, he's just a better Ceci.

Montour is a better fit, IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: oilers

That's an overpay for a guy who disappears every Spring. No thanks.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:24 p.m.

Thread: stanley cup champions

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ginandtacos</b></div><div>Campbell isn't even good enough to start in the AHL, </div></div>
Why do you feel the need to make outrageous claims that are easily disproven by a quick internet search? It doesn't help raise your credibility.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:21 a.m.

Thread: stanley cup champions

CF automatically calculates the bonus money, no need for the manual input. You're counting it twice.

So you have another $3.8M to spend.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:15 a.m.

Thread: Just a Look Ahead

Way too .much money and term to bit players. Seven years for Desharnais?? :help

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 8:25 a.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>Ceci is awful. </div></div>
LOL. This from a guy who wants to pay 3rd pairing defenseman Sean Walker 5 x $5M.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:51 a.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>how? ig Kane comes off</div></div>

Summer of 2025:
James Neal buyout comes off the books: $1.92M
Brown / Perry bonuses come off: $3.45M
Cap rises: $4.4M
That's $9.7M, enough for a ~$4M raise for Draisaitl and a ~$5.7M raise for Bouchard.

And if that's not enough, Kane's $5.125M contract shifts from being a full NMC to a 16-team NTC next summer.

Summer of 2026:
Kane's contract ends: $5.125M
Ekholm's contract ends: $6M
Cap rises: $4.6M
That's plenty for a McDavid raise, as even if Kane and Ekholm return, they'll sign at a lower AAV due to age.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:28 a.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tylersharpe</b></div><div>Let's be real tho Ceci's prolly the bummiest 2RD in the league, and Dowd is an excellent depth piece</div></div>

He's still a 2RD, and Dowd is still a 4C. The valuation of those two positions is not equal.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:26 a.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vols94</b></div><div>you are trading Brett kulak not Brett hull. If Kenny thinks he's getting a second then senility has set in</div></div>

They paid a 2nd + prospect to get him, and he's been more than worth the cost. That's the established price.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:25 a.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tylersharpe</b></div><div>I think if we're looking at keeping the same tandem I'd run Rodrigue as the backup and Picks in the minors. </div></div>
That's understandable. I thought it best to wait until training camp to determine the backup position, but I re-signed Rodrigue for this exact scenario.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tylersharpe</b></div><div> Also I wouldn't move Kulak, he's been stellar on d for us especially come playoff time</div></div>
Also understandable, but three things: 1. Edmonton needs the cap space, 2. Broberg is more than NHL ready and 3. Broberg has a much higher ceiling than Kulak.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 6:51 p.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>EEEEEEasy pass for the caps. It’s Ceci plus a significant sweetener to get Dowd. Don’t want Ceci and don’t need to move Dowd.</div></div>
4C for a 2RD is a good deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 6:50 p.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>in this scenario you won't be able to pay mcdcvid, draistaitl, and Bouchard when free agency hits</div></div>

Yes, I can.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 6:49 p.m.

Thread: Subtle Improvements

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FullSend</b></div><div>You forgot about Brown's bonus money and would much rather go for a superb defensive dman like Tanev or Roy and let Montour get his money elsewhere, we're not giving him that 6 mill.</div></div>

Look at overages. The bonus money is accounted for.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 5:13 p.m.

Thread: Couple Moves

I don't think Edmonton is in the market to take cap dumps.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: flyers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brdalesandro</b></div><div>Yes, it's asking for more, because asking a team to take on $15m costs a lot, So is buying out that same player who is owed $15m over the next three season. The worse goalie comment is moot, because he will be bought out. Its simply trading for a lesser contract that is more favorable to buyout.</div></div>
Sure, and as others have said maybe that's something Edmonton entertains, but not at the cost of Broberg + 1st.

Besides, your $15M is totally false. Campbell is owed $13.5M, but since Petersen is owed $6M the savings for Edmonton are just $7.5M, not $15M.

A Campbell buyout costs $9M, a Petersen buyout costs $4M. That's a $5M difference, not $15M.

And the Campbell buyout money is spread over 6 years, Petersen's over just 2.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 2:41 p.m.

Thread: flyers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brdalesandro</b></div><div>It cost a first round pick to move 1 year of Patrick Marleau $6.25m - Why would $15m total to Campbell cost the same?</div></div>

If the ask is higher Edmonton will just buy him out or leave him buried. As it is you're trying to get significantly more in return AND send back a worse goalie!

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: flyers

Remove Broberg and Petersen from the deal and Edmonton accepts. Otherwise not a chance.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:45 p.m.

Thread: team of hatedcontroversial NHL players

I don't agree with some of these - guys like McDavid, Kucherov and Marner are largely inoffensive. They play hard and are highly skilled, but they aren't dirty.

On the dirty list, I would add Perry & Doughty for sure. Maybe Zadorov.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:14 p.m.

Thread: Does this work

I guess you were thinking that the Draisaitl underpay and the Campbell overpay cancel each other out?

They don't, though. Campbell can be bought out fairly easily and Drysdale doesn't bring much to Edmonton's defense corps, so that doesn't equate to the weak return for Draisaitl.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:10 p.m.

Thread: BLECH

Edmonton, and the salary cap, say "no".

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:00 p.m.

Thread: The Ideal Offseason

I think if you removed Broberg and changed the 2nd to a 3rd, Edmonton would be interested.

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