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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsYesterday at 10:15 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>What's this about Dakota Joshua to Toronto?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Just Mirtle and Siegal who basically were shooting down rumours he wouldnt want to come here

Would stay clear as this feels like a overpay mistake waiting to happen</div></div>

21% shooting % and 103.7 pdo

Not for more than a buriable amount lmao

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:38 p.m.

Thread: Just workshopping some ideas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>It is exactly the opposite of what the team is doing. Agian no interest in an aging player on the decline were looking for a top six winger with speed.</div></div>

And you are missing the point of the trade entirely

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:27 p.m.

Thread: Just workshopping some ideas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>Canucks would have no interest in Smith.Too old n too slow as per the GM theyre trying to get younger n faster.</div></div>

Everyone says that. It means nothing lmao - particularly when you're talking about cap dumps. Canucks need to lose cap, and this has them losing a year off a contract that isn't working out for a guy who has a history of production and produced more last season

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:21 p.m.

Thread: Just workshopping some ideas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>remowilliams</b></div><div>Canucks pass
IMHO.</div></div>

Getting a new guy looking for a new start with half the term should help I think.
The pick or prospect wouldn't be particularly meaningful, which is why I didn't even bother putting them in the trade. I think if you're looking to help with the cap situation, this will

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 9:29 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

I have major doubts this is even real, but if the rumors about Vancouver moving Petey do end up being true, Leafs absolutely need to win that bidding war.

Send marner with an extension and whatever else needed to get it done.

-AM-Domi
Knies-EP40-WN
McMann-JT-
Dewer-Pope-

Fill out the roster with guys like Cowan and other cheap wings to spend the rest on D and Gs

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 7:28 p.m.

Thread: Nurse and Campbell Thank Us Later

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>My thought process is we aren’t losing anything of great value. By the time Nurse’s contract is up we will be really bad. It won’t matter.</div></div>

Sure, but you aren't getting nearly enough back to be doing the Oilers a favour like this. A late 1st, a 3rd, and a guy who has been having development issues?
To take on the Campbell and Nurse deals? Keep in mind that money they free up is to pay Draisaitl - You're charging pennies on the dollar

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 7:23 p.m.

Thread: Nurse and Campbell Thank Us Later

I don't hate the idea, I just don't think this trade is particularly enticing to Pittsburgh.
They are taking on a lot of money and risk for not nearly enough benefit

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 6:33 p.m.

Thread: tkachuk cubed

Where's the third? 😅

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsTue. at 6:33 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Nobody can read minds, so you are right</div></div>

I can. Which is why I know that everyone is stupid except me

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 6:01 p.m.

Thread: Darnell Nurse for Torey Krug

Not sure I understand this for the Blues. Double the term and 50% more cap hit for what? Nurse isn't that much better to justify this

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMon. at 4:46 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>I'm 99% sure that Tre called Wass and asked what it would take to sign Domi and the answer was 6x$6M. </div></div>

This is not something you should be 99% sure about given the information we have

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMon. at 3:17 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>It was a number given to him by Domi's agent.</div></div>

And that should tell you everything you need to know. It isn't a real number. He never actually asked for that. He's just trying to move the overton window to inflate the contract

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMon. at 3:05 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>It's already been reported that he's asking 5 years at $5-6M.</div></div>

This is not true. You'd know this if you actually read the piece. Its just a number Lebrun made up.

Also, he had a worse season than last year, where he could only get a 1 year prove it deal. Its total BS

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMon. at 1:06 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

Can someone explain why Brady Tkachuk keeps coming up in trade talk?

Did something happen?

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSun. at 9:37 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>Jake Guentzel (a much more valuable player) returned a conditional 2nd+ and a cap dump</div></div>

That is not remotely an accurate description of what Guentzel got.
And the comparison you made isn't even the correct one.
Its between rentals traded in the summer vs the deadline, not rentals traded at the deadline, or a few weeks before the deadline.

Its pretty well established that full year rentals do not get a proportionally larger return compared to deadline rentals (and are thus MUCH better value for a buyers assets)

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSun. at 8:59 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>https://www.nhl.com/news/sean-monahan-traded-to-winnipeg-jets-by-montreal-canadiens#:~:text=Sean%20Monahan%20was%20traded%20to,in%20the%202027%20NHL%20Draft.
https://www.nhl.com/news/jake-guentzel-traded-to-carolina-hurricanes-by-pittsburgh-penguins</div></div>

Contrary to popular opinion, I am not a computer - so you're gonna have to be more specific than that

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsSun. at 8:54 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

So if no suitors come up this summer, do we keep Mitch and try and trade him at the deadline?
Historically speaking, there isn't a huge penalty to doing that value wise

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 24 at 8:46 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

Can someone go call <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/840317">this</a> guy a r e t a r d?
I think im on my last strike and am only half convinced it's worth the ban

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 24 at 6:50 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Per Lebrun Domi and Bertuzzi are discussing long term extensions with TOR in the 5-6m range

Meanwhile Serevalli projects

3.5m x 2 years for Domi 5.25m x 4 years for Bertuzzi

Im gonna guess both 5 years slightly less money</div></div>

Lebrun didn't actually say that. He's just making up numbers.

But also if this is what playing in Toronto does to players salaries (Domi shouldn't be in line for a raise imo), we should never extend depth, and instead just offer new guys 1 year deals with the knowledge that Toronto's hacks will inflate their next contract.

In that vein of thinking, Lindholm on a 1 year deal next to JT could be cool

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 24 at 5:00 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

I'm looking at <a href="https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/ufa-projections-how-much-money-did-canucks-elias-lindholm-cost-himself-this-year" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">contract projections</a> and there are a few here I'd take a gamble on. Kyllington at a Benny number is for sure a good bet. Not too old and Trev has lots of familiarity with him.

Lebanc an beau would also be decent depth bets

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 24 at 4:03 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Nyquist would be salary filler, the main course is Saros and Wood.

Fabbro, if Liljegren is not good enough, either is Fabbro.
We need 2x 2 way D man minimum.
Bring back Bosch for 3rd pair role if he takes 2 million

Big body LD nice, anyone else to consider?
Our RD development looks sad right now.</div></div>

Not really. Hasn't been a bit of the draft I've looked into

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 23 at 9:20 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I can get behind thi.
Whose your target with the pick OR you looking to flip for a quantity of picks?</div></div>

Target is the guy I've been yelling about for the last year and a half. Sam Dickinson. But I don't know that he will still be there at 6

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 23 at 5:05 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>That's what I'm saying. I'm not sure I love that trade off. Like <em>if</em> we hit, the best piece in the trade won't be at the top of their game and making an big impact for, what, 4-5 years? Not sure I'm content with that for where the team is at.</div></div>

Doan looks good so far

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 23 at 4:52 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>6th overall is really nice, but the best current impact player coming back being Crouse is tough to swallow for me</div></div>

That's the trade-off for getting 6.

Chief said he likes north-south players. Crouse is certainly that

Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 23 at 3:02 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed

I think I've finally put together my wishlist for a Marner trade.

Pick, player, and a prospect.

Utah makes a ton of sense, but needs some wiggling to get there.

6th overall, Crouse, McBain, Doan
For
Marner, Kampf, 23rd overall

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