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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:58 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Trade for Marner to Support Celebrini Sign Skjei Pesce DeBrusk Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>He wants $12M, that's why Leaf fans keep wanting to move him. And to go to a team not yet in their competitive window he'll want more. Sharks are rebuilding perfectly fine, they don't need Marner, the season after this one is where the Sharks will enter the UFA market with their big checkbook. You could out offer Drai more than any other team.</div></div>
I was 100% on board with loading up for Draisaitl before the lottery but since SJ landed Celebrini, I'd much rather spend the big contract money on either Marner or Reinhart since Celebrini-Smith will be a fine 1-2 punch down the middle for the future.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:56 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Trade for Marner to Support Celebrini Sign Skjei Pesce DeBrusk Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FireShanahanTrelivingKeefe</b></div><div>Id take this from TML but it would be better for you guys to just buyout Vlasic he is done!</div></div>
He's indeed done but just riding out the contract for 2 more years instead of prolonging it with cap hits for more years, we don't need the extra cap space this year.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 1:53 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Trade for Marner to Support Celebrini Sign Skjei Pesce DeBrusk Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Yes, Mitch Marner waives his NMC before the most important contract of his career to the San Jose Sharks.</div></div>
He wants to be close with his father Patrick and his 4 cousins, as well as his little brother Macklin.
Plus Sharks will have the cap space to resign him (Bystedt or maybe even Edstrom replace Granlund with his 5mil contract coming off the books, IF Marner warrants a significant raise, which I don't think he will. I think 11mil is where he signs).
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 3:25 a.m.
Thread:
Eff It
That's what I'm talking about -- I APPROVE!
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:23 a.m.
Thread:
Help Macklin
I'm a BIG proponent of going after Marner so I like this idea in theory. However -- obviously would much rather sign him as a UFA next season for free rather than part with a 1st and two 2nds (Ferraro's roughly worth a 2nd).
Having said that, Celebrini still needs help this year if he's to make the jump to the Sharks. Therefore, I think Sharks should target Reinhart who's almost just as good and a similar player. They can sign him without having to part with any assets.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 8:00 p.m.
Thread:
Seeing how UFAs Fit
Would be too much to get into the years / aav discussion, but this is a good reference.
Here the guys from this list that I'd like to target (plus some unmentioned ones), with the key caveat "at the right price" of course, in order of preference. This also takes into account their projected term and value:
RHD: Pesce, Roy, I'd definitely add Sean Walker here too, Chatfield, Montour.
Center: No one here interests me to be honest. Max Domi would work though. Ofc would like to have Lindholm but not with term and aav other teams will definitely give.
RW: Guentzel, Toffoli, Marchessault (for the top-6), Duclair 3rd line mayyyyybe 2nd.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 7:02 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Support Celebrini Smith with Reinhart DeBrusk Fix Defense with Roy Walker
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>Maybe Debrusk, Reinhart making that much scares me. I am 10000% in agreement with you that we need to get a guy to support Celebrini, but I would get a cheaper option like Domi who will protect him, and will cost less. I don't want to create a log jam through.</div></div>
Down for Domi, pull Keefe as our coach while we're at it and Marner as a UFA next year too.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 4:27 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Support Celebrini Smith with Reinhart DeBrusk Fix Defense with Roy Walker
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>Do you really want to commit to debrusk for 5 years at 6.5? and reinhart for 7 at 10?</div></div>
They've both been consistently good for a number of years now, and they're still fairly young. I'd be happy with it. I really think Grier needs to get Reinhart this year or Marner next year as UFAs as the team's top RW to support Celebrini. I'm more worried about trading for that guy and giving up assets rather than cap space.
I know some have pushed Stamkos as a slightly better fit/somewhat more realistic option, but even Stammer's not good enough anymore to help this team be better so that's someone I'd be against signing actually. Pavs too, he's looked kinda cooked the past few months.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 4:22 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Support Celebrini Smith with Reinhart DeBrusk Fix Defense with Roy Walker
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Also Couture should be assumed to start on LTIR</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>I do think some moves are a bit overoptimistic/unrealistic. </div></div>
I'm absolutely still on my landing-Celebrini high so I'm unabashedly pushing my luck as far as it goes with this foreign feeling of optimism.
Realistically though yeah, I have Bordeleau starting as the 2LW with Cooch on IR.
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Armchair-GM
Thu. at 3:05 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Support Celebrini Smith with Reinhart DeBrusk Fix Defense with Roy Walker
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WastingTimeWithTradeNobodyLikes</b></div><div>lol no. UFAs are out of the picture, they are tanking for a few years, as they should. They will be in the picture for McKenna.</div></div>
Why are UFAs out of the picture? That's ludicrous.
And that's incorrect. Grier, whether it's himself or pressure from HP, wants to turn things around sooner rather than later.
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Armchair-GM
Wed. at 2:41 a.m.
Thread:
Well This Changes Things
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Waffelz</b></div><div>Imo the Sharks need someone like Debrusk to fill out the top 6, you really don't want the entire top of the lineup to be guys under 24. I can see Ghostisbehere not being the best choice though, maybe someone like Dylan Demelo instead?</div></div>
Yep I like the DeBrusk signing a lot. Ideally gets him or Bertuzzi. Swap DeMelo or even more ideally (though less likely) Roy/Pesce for Ghost.
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Armchair-GM
Wed. at 2:38 a.m.
Thread:
Sharknado
This is a very likely roster prediction-wise. Would be interesting to bookmark this one and come back to it once the opening night roster is set -- I'd bet it'll be very similar. I think Grier lets Addison walk though.
That said, as far as my own take on it goes, I'm pretty adamant that SJ needs to move on from Kunin. To me, Duclair being brought back is fine but he's a very good 3rd line winger, I don't think it should be to play with Celebrini -- he doesn't backcheck hard or play defense well. Stephenson I really don't think is that good and doesn't warrant that contract (which he'll likely get from some team).
The good: really like the Walker signing, as well as the Duclair resigning (just in a different spot on the roster).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed. at 2:33 a.m.
Thread:
Post Lottery Team Im Delusional
Sharks accept.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 6 at 2:04 a.m.
Thread:
San Jose Hockey Now
I love the defense but good Lord, that forward corps...
This wouldn't be the way to go about things if you're Grier and want to start turning things around. I'd rather play the young guys and see what we have in them if we're okay with being terrible again.
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Armchair-GM
May 6 at 1:20 a.m.
Thread:
SJ Overhaul Defense with Skjei Pesce Roy Swap Thrun for Chinakhov Add DeBrusk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RecycleShark</b></div><div>Like all your UFA signings. Unfortunately the only one that is likely to happen is Trenin.
Why Thrun for Chinakhov?</div></div>
Yeah I agree, still hopeful though.
That's actually been something I've been thinking long and hard on of late. Chinakhov is/will be a very good middle-six winger, which is about the same value as Thrun, who as of now projects to have his ceiling as a 2nd pairing guy and floor as a bottom-pair guy. I look at the Sharks roster and they have that in Ferraro. Mukhmadullin will need to be eased into things for at least 2 more years before sniffing top-pairing minutes (and only potentially if everything goes right at that). So Ferraro and Shakir take those two bottom spots (and I think they'll do fine there), that to me leaves Thrun as an odd man out.
Tangent: This is assuming that we want everyone to stay on their natural left sides and not play out of position. I know many have countered and have said that it's not as big a deal as we make it be but I strongly beg to differ, especially as someone who's played the game myself. They say they're professionals but that's exactly my point -- this is the top league and it's highly preferable to maximize the potential out of each and every guy and not have them play with any handicap of being on their off-side since the margin of error is so thin that it'll be exposed. I know they CAN play their off-side, obviously, but anyone who's played the game, and specifically defense, knows that it's much more difficult if you want to maximize your full potential.
Back to the main point: Moreover, I wasn't thrilled with Thrun's growth this year, which no one was thrilled with though it wasn't anything wasn't anything obviously egregious, but the difference with me is that I think it may be something. Obviously we all agree that we asked much, much too much from him, but even still, I just didn't see enough to think that he's solidified being on the right track and definitely don't think he's a cornerstone guy that you can't separate from. SJ NEEDS a top pairing guy like Skjei, and there aren't many two-way guys like him in free agency or even available in trades. Grier should do everything he can to land him, and if he does so as this roster has it, to me, that makes one of Ferraro or Thrun expendable, and I think Ferraro is both the better player for now and even in the future as well as a better fit for what this team needs with his size and high-energy, especially if his minutes get reduced as they should and he really starts putting in his all with the minutes he's given with the reduced workload like he did in his first year with the Sharks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 5 at 6:58 p.m.
Thread:
SJ Overhaul Defense with Skjei Pesce Roy Swap Thrun for Chinakhov Add DeBrusk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>Montreal has almost 10 mil in cap space with a mostly full lineup and only a couple of RFAs that wont be due major raises. That includes Price's 10.5 mil which can be put on LTIR. Their cap situation isn't anywhere close to tight (for the first time since 2020).
But even if it was, Kunin's QO is 3mil. They'd save less than half a mil. Assuming they want to keep Kunin, who is a player that suits their needs less, was much worse this season and a pick. Its just not worth the effort.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>Montreal cap is tight ?! Huh ?!?!?!</div></div>
Good points, for whatever reason I had it in my head that Josh Anderson and Brendan Gallagher's contracts were crippling MTL's cap situation, which indeed isn't the case, similar to how Vlasic's contract isn't for SJ (not anymore, at least).
Having said that, getting 3.4mil in cap space is always a plus, especially if you're looking to add UFAs. Armia's contract isn't unmoveable (it was a few years ago), but still, Kunin isn't obliged to sign his qualifying offer and can sign for cheaper in MTL if there isn't a market for that QO, or MTL could just let him go and use the 3.4mil elsewhere.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 5 at 6:39 p.m.
Thread:
SJ Overhaul Defense with Skjei Pesce Roy Swap Thrun for Chinakhov Add DeBrusk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnout</b></div><div>I'm skeptical Montreal would even want to make the qualifying offer owed to Kunin, which means they probably decline.</div></div>
They'd get out of 3.4mil from Armia though, their cap situation's tight.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 5 at 6:33 p.m.
Thread:
SJ Overhaul Defense with Skjei Pesce Roy Swap Thrun for Chinakhov Add DeBrusk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dk325</b></div><div>Jackets decline. LD is probably the position they're deepest at currently. Chinakhov is also part of a trio with Marchenko and Voronkov that seems to have very high potential if Pascal Vincent could get his head out of his ass and let them play.</div></div>
Fair. I've been puzzled by that too... I'm high on both Marchenko and Chinakhov.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 17 at 2:57 a.m.
Thread:
Chuky
If the youth end up all being alright, man oh man would this hit.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 7 at 3:48 a.m.
Thread:
Sharks in 2024 Land Celebrini Sign Reinhart Hanifin Pesce Trade Ferraro
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>I understand your posts but, do you really think it is a good idea to sign reinhart 9+mill until he is 36? these are exactly the deals we made moves to get out of. If we were to sign someone like this, the Meier trade, the hertl trade, the Karlsson trade would have never happened. Our goal is to have a young team built from within.</div></div>
Not necessarily true. Trading EK65 and Meier 1) allowed the team to properly tank for Celebrini (or another high-end prospect at #2 or #3) and 2) netted back assets to a rebuilding team like Mukh, Musty, Zetterlund, PITT 1st, etc. It wasn't just getting out of their big contract situations that were main factors in their deals. If the Sharks could get guys like Hanifin and Reinhart essentially for free as UFAs, they absolutely would -- 7 or 8 years be damned (someone said it in another comment, that's just what it takes to sign these guys).
That said, like the other comments have said, it's unlikely those guys would consider signing with SJ. On the other hand, landing Celebrini would be a BIG pull for those guys (coupled with SJ's other promising young talent), as would the fact that money speaks and Sharks would outbid other teams if they really wanted to help Celebrini and the young team to have a few excellent guys to help lead this new team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 4 at 8:24 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Set Up Well in 2025 After Landing Celebrini Signing Draisaitl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DFinn91</b></div><div>Do you really think it’s the best idea to sign a 30 year old for 7 years at 14.5M a season?
Also, Ferraro is still on our top pair? I’m sorry but I don’t think Ferraro will ever be a good top pairing defenseman.</div></div>
Draisaitl is a top-5 player in the league, I think it's a safe bet that at least the first 5 of those years will be more than fine. I think this particular signing depends on the Marner situation too with the Leafs, as well as Smith's projection as a RW or center since Smith to RW has started becoming a greater point of conversation recently. Either way, I think Sharks make a push for one of them as big a FA addition to the team, especially with all that cap space and the younger kids being ready by that point to receive some support to help their development.
Regarding Ferraro, you're right. Thrun I don't think will belong on the top pair either and Mukhmadullin I think rounds out as a 2nd pairing guy, and I especially don't see him getting top pairing minutes in (what should be) only his 2nd year. Ferraro at least has some experience. It's a weakness on this roster but at least paired with a guy like Pesce shouldn't be egregiously terrible.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 4 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks Set Up Well in 2025 After Landing Celebrini Signing Draisaitl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>This is so scary
A team that needed right shot forwards just landed a top 50 prospect with a top 3 and top 15 pick this draft, too. Imagine Yakemchuk instead of Iginla, too. Wow</div></div>
Would be very down for Yakemchuk. Iginla's the safer pick but I'm fine with a little risk, especially at SJ's most critical area of need.
Would be truly something special if they get #1 Celebrini #11/12 Iginla and then in the late 20s/early 30s get dman Alfons Freij, who's arguably the most under-the-radar prospect in the draft.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 3 at 6:19 p.m.
Thread:
Nightmare scenario - dropping to third
I agree with all this, they're prudent moves if Sharks fail to land Celebrini.
My gut tells me that Grier reaches for Lindstrom at #3 (assuming Celebrini and Levshunov are taken). He's the overall good physical player in all areas that Grier wants to have for the team, which is great and I'd love to have him on the Sharks, but I don't think he offers enough to justify a #3 overall selection.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 2 at 7:32 p.m.
Thread:
2024 Sharks Land Celebrini Sign Reinhart Pesce Matt Roy Trade for Nic Roy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steve_321</b></div><div>Yeah I like this. If they land Brini boy it changes things.</div></div>
Exactly my thought process.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 1 at 8:37 p.m.
Thread:
Sharks with no bite
Simulated GM would win the GM of the decade award if he's able to get an unprotected OTT 2026 1st as well a 2025 2nd for Ferraro. Realistically it'd either be just the 2nd or a top-10 protected 1st. I do like the idea of 1 year deals in 2024 and shipping out Rutta.
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