Forgot to mention in my hypothetical scenario for Carolina Jarvis and Guentzel both sign for 9mil at most

A lot of CFACGM fans think Maatta is the worst D in the NHL and has no value.

I think he's worth a 4th but those same geniuses believe you can't give up those picks because you may draft the next Brayden Point.

I don't think that, Maatta is good

GM's do too.

But the geniuses on CFACGM know more. 🙄

Dumped so many assets and still not a single marketable name.

Onto Quebec City in 2029

I mean a winning team would be marketable and if Utah starts winning Keller's popularity would go up IMO

This team is a borderline playoff team. You have the Canucks 3C as your 1C. Cooley is trending as a low end #1/high end #2 C and he's the future of the franchise right now.

Smith is going to want a real name Marner, Stamkos type. Someone who is going to be on national campaigns and NHL promos while playing for Utah.

Have you seen playoff Lindholm? Took him a while to get going for the Canucks but, now that he is he's producing more than Pettersson and plays PK, very obviously not a 3C.
They can still get a more marketable player, they have 11mil in cap space in my hypothetical scenario and other guys\picks they can move.

Maatta isn't really in the way of Edvinsson. Chiarot likely goes to RD.

Not saying he is a 3C but on a contending team he isn't a 1C by a longshot

He's a solid 3rd pair dman but will be 30 before the start of the season. He probably brings in a 4th and you really don't have to over complicate it.

I know Detroit fans aren't a fan of them but they still have Holl and Petry on the right side and I think they're trying to bring back Ghost. I guess I meant just clearing up a roster spot in general

Didn't say they're winning the cup but, like how Seattle 2yrs ago they can get to the playoffs and stun somebody

Like how Boston did with Peeke even though his value was low, you send an offer that shouldn't get beat to make sure you get the guy.

I also think Maatta is the type of D every team should be trying to get, he's the type guy that come playoffs if a top4 D gets injured he slides into the top4 and plays simple winning hockey

There's probably a 0% chance that Holl will be on this team next year.

I wish I could say the same about Petry.

Again I know Detroit fans have no love for him but, I don't remember Yzerman saying anything bad about Holl publicly. I also think it's a long shot that they buy him out 1yr after signing him and trading him is also difficult. I think he stays but, for Wings fans sake I hope I'm wrong

When he moved Kostin at the deadline his comments, essentially, were "We can't justify $2M in cap for the role he was playing."

Now apply those comments to a $3.4M player they were healthy scratching for over half the season...

You're right but, he(SteveY) must've known that was going to be the role Holl was going to play when he signed him, Holl isn't fit for any other role

Holl was signed before Petry was made available.

Fair point, we'll see

I do agree for the most part. Maatta is better than most on this site think, but the cost of a cap dump is severely over estimated on this site as well. I wasn't a fan of Maatta when Detroit signed him but a couple of LA fans basically told me to give him a chance and I was pleasantly surprised. He has played well in Detroit. In his first season with Detroit he made Hronek look like he could actually play defense and it was the Hronek trade that landed us ASP. With the emergence of Edvinsson Detroit needs to move a dman from the left side. Honestly I'd rather move Chariot but Yzerman isn't moving him.

Every ACGM thinks acquiring a player getting paid more than an ELC is a cap dump and their team must be given compensation lol
Also people confuse capdumps and some players that fill in roster spots.
EX: everyone on ACGM said Beauvillier was a capdump for Vancouver and he kind of was but, Chicago needed to fill out the roster and paid a 5th rounder and Nashville did the same for him at the trade deadline and Maatta is clearly better than Beauvillier and cheaper and has won a cup

I agree with your points. Maatta often doesn't get the recognition he deserves on this site. The value of cap dumps does seem to be exaggerated here. When Detroit signed Maatta, I was skeptical too, but after hearing positive feedback from LA fans, I gave him a chance and was pleasantly surprised by his performance. He played a key role in improving Hronek's defensive game, which ultimately helped us land ASP through the Hronek trade.

With Edvinsson emerging, it's clear that Detroit needs to move a left-side defenseman. While I'd prefer to see Chiarot go, it's unlikely Yzerman will move him.

It's also true that many ACGM posts overestimate the need for compensation when acquiring players with contracts above ELCs. There's a distinction between true cap dumps and players who can still fill valuable roster spots. For instance, while many labeled Beauvillier as a cap dump for Vancouver, both Chicago and Nashville saw his value enough to trade for him. Maatta, who is better and cheaper than Beauvillier, also brings championship experience, making him a valuable asset rather than a cap dump.