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Forum: NHLThu. at 12:51 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Nope and neither does the NFL, NBA or MLB.

You certainly don't understand the structure of these leagues

The individual teams make or lose money. The league doesn't The "league" is just an "administrator" of the rules.</div></div>

They are not just an administrator of the rules, nor are they a non-profit that just breaks-even.

The NHL itself, "the league", not the Owners also gets a share of the revenues generated by the league (teams and the league collectively). This occurs in EVERY league, both pro sports and in US collegiate sports (NCAA). The league builds a pretty substantial amount of money actually. I don't know what the % is but I believe it is less than a full team share but I could be wrong about that as it is not public knowledge.
Forum: NHLTue. at 10:05 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>No Devon Toews and Nichuskin seems to have taken all the wind out of Colorado, they looked pretty dead last night</div></div>

It shouldn't be an excuse because we still have a lot of firepower and got Drouin back last night. But I guess the Val thing happened right before the game, like he did morning skate, practices, and team meetings then was pulled either in the locker room or right before.

I think the shuffling of the D pairs was what really threw them off last night. Our Defense is the engine of the team and fuels the breakout and puck possession. Putting Walker on his offhand with a partner that he is unfamiliar with (Makar) and then having a 3rd pair of Jack Johnson-Caleb Jones was really disruptive. They played Girard-Manson alot to make up for it. I don't know that there was a better solution, just that it wasn't ideal.

MacKinnon was his "pre-Cup" frustrated self and wore his emotions on his sleeve; which probably gave Dallas encouragement that they had him rattled. Rantanen has been pretty lost all series for some reason. Lehkonen was a difference maker but his chances were inches away instead of going in and Drouin drove some good play but the Stars have done a great job pushing the Avs to the perimeter. With no Val Nichushkin to open it up the top lines struggled. Miles Wood did well at it but lacked the support to finish.

I seriously would put Wood on a top line in place of Val just to get that physical wrecking ball in to give the skill guys more room to work.
Forum: NHLMon. at 12:44 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>The Brits and Poland are definitely on the rise to varying degrees. Norway is another one that I really want to see take the next step. France and Italy are probably the most frustrating because if they cared more they could put together teams comparable to the Germans and Swiss. I don’t know why Estonia and Lithuania can’t follow Latvia’s example? Most of Europe could be at least competitive if the interest grows. As far as Asia goes, Japan would be great but if that was going to happen I think it would have followed the Nagano Olympics when the country went into love move with Hasek and Jagr.</div></div>

Yeah good call on Italy too. With the 2026 Olympics and some new arenas hopefully they'll get a bump up in interest and resources especially in Milan, Turin, and Northern Italy.
Forum: NHLMay 8 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WJC_Enthusiast</b></div><div>I feel like they could've waited a but longer to sack Hakstol. He didn't do that bad of a job with a underwhelming roster in terms of talent</div></div>

I think that they had success 2 years ago with a really well executed system of play. A "mid" roster but was deep and they could roll lines and everyone pretty much was interchangeable parts.

The flaw in that thinking is that once teams scouted and executed how to beat their system they became a lower mid team since they lacked the elite talent to adapt and make adjustments.

It was a great way to get competitive right away but it isn't going to get them into the next tier of teams. Big risk that they fall backwards, but Ron Francis is gambling they can get the right coach to take them to the next level without the elite talent.
Forum: NHLMay 6 at 10:12 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Domi's said numerous times if he stays he is willing to take a discount of course open market he can get more but if he stays its on a discount like what Paul did with TBL

Wouldnt be surprised if its a 3.15m x 7 year deal like Pauls was

Liligren is not gonna get to much. Guy didnt have a super great season and does not have a tonne of leverage see a 2 year 2.25m deal as rn he's a third pair guy who can do a bunch of little things but not excel at them. Basically Liligren got a Bear deal</div></div>

You might get Liljegren on 1 year at that AAV but if there is term it will be around $3m AAV. I dont see any reason to argue against this analysis: <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/maple-leafs-predicting-rfa-defencemen-next-contract/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Predicting Maple Leafs’ Expiring RFA Defencemen’s Next Contracts</a>
Forum: NHLMay 6 at 3:42 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>So I did the math.

Bertuzzi will probs get around 4.75m-5.5m and Domi 3-4m both on 5-6 year deals

TOR then has enough to bring in a 4-6m Dman (Roy, Demelo, etc.), Lybushkin at around 1.5m, and a 2m goalie to backup Woll

Its tricky but doable as they have seen some guys step up and graduate

Robertson, McMann (was hurt the series so who knows what we would have seen when healthy), Benoit, Dewar, Holmberg, etc.

Like man it sucks McMann got hurt as he was snakingly becoming a B6 weapon who could score off the rush or just drive the net</div></div>

I think Domi will get more, even as a low end 2C or as a 2nd line winger he is probably in the same range as Bertuzzi. His play down the stretch and in the playoffs has helped him alot.

Also, where did you value Liljegren?

I think there is only room to bring in 2 out of 3 of Domi, Bertuzzi, and a 1st pair RD.
Forum: NHLMay 6 at 3:14 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Apparently per Friedman

Both Bertuzzi and Domi and the TML have mutual interest in a return

TOR is talking with McCabe on extension

Berube is the front runner for HC


Doing the math on if bringing those two back and doing other things is do able and getting what we want but yea its not bad so far.</div></div>

I can't see how much changes for TML if they don't add a high end top 4 RHD. With Pesce, Montour, Roy, Walker, and some others likely on the market they'll need between $5 and $7 million available in free agency; all of those re-signings would use up their cap space along with Liljegren RFA and goalie deals.

Their offense being only created from the top 6 forwards is the most predictable attack; if they got better transition and offense generated from their defense they would be a much more dangerous and consistent team.
Forum: NHLMay 6 at 2:57 p.m.
Thread: 2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CantStopWontStop</b></div><div>If I were on the leafs board I would vote to give it one more go.

Worry about Marner/Tavares in 12 months. If one of those 2 approached and wanted out, would facilitate, otherwise, no.

With Utah’s existence; added buying pressure of available on ice talent as well as numerous teams looking for coaches, it is a bad offseason to voluntarily become a buyer of both. Everything is locked up, can focus on building a better team. Can deal with the headaches in a future friendlier environment. Maybe take a shot at a coach if there’s one guy that really moves the needle but if I didn’t get my guy I wouldn’t dump what I have for second best.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I feel rn they have 2 plans

1. Ask either if they would be willing to waive

If yes then they make a move

If no on to plan B

2. Same **** build around them and see</div></div>

Yeah the coaching decision is the front and center (another HC let go before extension?)

Player wise there really is just a few things that can do to improve the team vs "change for change's sake".

Pick 1 UFA: Max Domi or Tyler Bertuzzi
#1 RD in Free Agency
Goalie (1A or 1B) in Free Agency

Beyond that it is coaching/execution/systems and the role of the youth movement: Knies, Quillan, Minten, Cowan, Grebyonkin, Niemela, Hildeby getting any meaningful roles in 2024-25.

Predicting/expecting anything major beyond that requires 2 or 3 "steps" to come together that are impossible to determine today at this stage