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Forum: NHL SigningsWed. at 3:05 p.m.
Thread: San Jose Sharks signed Will Smith (3 Years / $4,150,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>It's a good signing but some of the comments on here.

I don't really see how this teams future is much different than what it has been without a legit franchise player on it.
Smith, Celebrini, Eklund ..... ain't it.

What I see is a rebuild running full steam ahead into mediocrity. They needed to take a few more years, probably got the 1OA at the wrong time if you ask me. Would have been better off next year or the year after that.</div></div>

This is a very weird comment...so basically a team should tank forever and pray for a lottery on a generational talent that they may never win?

Meanwhile lots of pretty good players either never get signed or avoid the org like the plague because they are only shopping for McDavids?
Forum: NHL SigningsTue. at 9:07 p.m.
Thread: San Jose Sharks signed Will Smith (3 Years / $4,150,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>He has not graded out on par with Matthews and Hughe.
There is no point in talking with someone who makes crap up as they go.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>He has not graded out on par with Matthews and Hughe.
There is no point in talking with someone who makes crap up as they go.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Whos saying this? He's literally graded as on Par with Matthews and Hughes. Behind only the two generational talents in the Connors in the past decade. He's absolutely that guy.

You don't need a generational talent to win a cup. Look at LA 2012 &amp; 14. Look at the four teams remaining, only Edmonton has a player of the caliber that you're talking about. You might as well just tell every team that's not Edmonton, Chicago, or Colorado to stop trying because according to you, if you don't have a top 5 player in the league you have no chance at a cup.

Do you think Smith is going to take this team from 32 to a bubble team? No they're still rebuilding. Also Smith has said that he's willing to play in the AHL if that's what's best for his development.

You have genuinely no clue about this sport</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>Ah I see you are trying to drag me down to your level and beat me with experience. Well played sir, well played.

Done here</div></div>

<a href="/users/luckymoneypuck" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@luckymoneypuck</a> you’re literally just arguing for the sake of being right. I have incredibly high hopes for Smith and Celebrini. I have high hopes for Bedard and Clarke. A prospect and the game grows because of excitement and that’s how the game becomes better.

And here I spent 2 minutes to find people who are smarter than us to talk about Celebrini since you clearly won’t take the time to find the experts.

"Celebrini and Bedard are different players, but I think you can project that they're going to have a similar impact in the NHL," said Central Scouting's Jean-Francois Damphousse. "Maybe Bedard's shot release is something special that Celebrini doesn't have, but Celebrini has the competitiveness, playmaking, skating, IQ ... elite in every category. - NHL.com

“While Celebrini does not shoot it like Bedard, his ability to shoot off the pass and get to the hard areas of the ice for the dirtier goals have allowed Celebrini to score at a rate comparable to Bedard when adjusting for the competitive differences between leagues.

In Byron Bader’s hockey prospect probability model at HockeyProspecting.com, Celebrini barely trails Bedard’s draft season in terms of NHL equivalency. Bedard was at an NHLe of 62, while Celebrini has an NHLe of 60.

Bedard had more hype and certainly had better performances in the World Juniors, but Celebrini’s World Under-18 at 16 actually paced better than Bedard’s as Celebrini posted a Canadian record 15 points in seven games.

Comparing two players who play differing styles can be foolhardy at times. I think back to the years where people debated who was better for the Chicago Blackhawks, Patrick Kane or Jonathan Toews. Depending on the year it could be a different answer, though Kane’s prime lasted much longer than Toews’s.”
- Chris Peters

An example of Kane (Bedard) and Toews (Celebrini) - both franchise leaders for their team and had tremendous impact on the NHL.

“Celebrinis prospect models comparables are:
Kairya
McDavid
Bedard
Kane”
- Bader

Point is at the end of the day we should hope for Macklin to be a franchise player because he’s shown that hype is warranted. It’s better for the game, not better for Sharks fans. Having Macklin being a franchise star in California, only benefits the NHL’s success, and makes the game more exicitng to see another star. We should cheer for a prospects success not against it: