What a trade down might look like

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Created by: RicXX

Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 7, 2024

Published: May 12, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Just an idea as to what a trade down might look like, Mtl just used in this example. Not sure if the Hawks would do it, nor do I believe they should but, it's an option. 2oa for 5oa and 24-28oa with a high 2025 2nd.

Might be able to bundle the 20th and 24th to move up as well.

Trades

CHI

2024 1st round pick (MTL)
2024 1st round pick (WPG)
2025 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

2024 1st round pick (CHI)

Buyouts

Josh Bailey: $2,666,667
Brett Connolly: $1,166,667
Henrik Borgström: $183,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Jake McCabe: $2,000,000 (50%)

Recapture Fees

Duncan Keith: $1,938,456

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$58,957,207	$0	$6,502,500	$24,542,793

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Reichel, Lukas $925,000$925,000 ($505,000$505K) LW, C RFA - 1	Dickinson, Jason $2,650,000$2,650,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Athanasiou, Andreas $4,250,000$4,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Hall, Taylor $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Bedard, Connor $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) C RFA - 3	Donato, Ryan $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2
Foligno, Nick $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1	Kurashev, Philipp $2,250,000$2,250,000 LW, C, RW RFA - 2	Raddysh, Taylor $758,333$758,333 RW RFA - 1
Slaggert, Landon $912,500$912,500 ($25,000$25K) LW RFA - 2	Johnson, Reese $800,000$800,000 RW, C RFA - 1	Anderson, Joey $800,000$800,000 RW RFA - 1
Entwistle, Mackenzie $800,000$800,000 LW, C RFA - 1	Dach, Colton $825,000$825,000 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 3	Rolston, Ryder $895,000$895,000 ($57,500$58K) C, LW, RW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Vlasic, Alex $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 1	Jones, Seth $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 7	Mrázek, Petr $3,800,000$3,800,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Korchinski, Kevin $918,333$918,333 ($1,000,000$1M) LD RFA - 3	Murphy, Connor $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Stauber, Jaxson $883,750$883,750 G RFA - 1
Kaiser, Wyatt $916,667$916,667 ($425,000$425K) LD RFA - 2	Crevier, Louis $850,833$850,833 ($57,500$58K) RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Blackwell, Colin $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 1
		Tinordi, Jarred $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD UFA - 1
		Megna, Jaycob $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1
		Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
		Philp, Luke $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1
		Seney, Brett $775,000$775,000 C, LW UFA - 1
		Gust, David $762,500$762,500 RW UFA - 1
		Sanford, Zachary $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
		Hardman, Mike $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

May 12 at 11:24 a.m.

habs_trade_churner_50

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I wish it were that reasonable. But I think it would cost the CGY 1st instead of the MTL 2nd in 2025
Probably also need to add a B-tier Prospect like Sean Farrell.

And still Davidson probably would not accept that offer. He would just pick his guy.

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May 12 at 11:26 a.m.

exo2769

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I don't see this happening. The Habs and Hawks are in similar positions when it comes to prospects. Both are near the top in the league for overall rankings. Both what high end vs quantity. So it boils down to the Habs have to think the #2 is far better than #5, but the Hawks have to think the opposite. That #5 & #2 aren't very far off.

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May 12 at 11:30 a.m.

RicXX

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The idea was due to KD and Co were prepared for 4OA, and took a look at what happened last year. Could Demidov slide down the draft order? If they still want him, risk to trade down.

You might be right with the Calgary 2025 1st rd pick, over the 2025 2nd.

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May 12 at 11:32 a.m.

RicXX

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Quoting: exo2769

Oh I don't see it happening either, but it's still an option on the table and I haven't seen anyone post it up yet.

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May 12 at 11:38 a.m.

SociallyHawkward

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Quoting: RicXX

It couldn't be Montreal. They have pretty much the same needs as chicago so it wouldn't make sense in that regard

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May 12 at 11:41 a.m.

RicXX

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Quoting: SociallyHawkward

It couldn't be Montreal. They have pretty much the same needs as chicago so it wouldn't make sense in that regard

Mtl is just an example, as is stated in the description. Yes it means other picks would come into play, but it's more on what kind of offer it would take for KD to consider it.

May 12 at 11:47 a.m.

SociallyHawkward

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Quoting: RicXX

Mtl is just an example, as is stated in the description. Yes it means other picks would come into play, but it's more on what kind of offer it would take for KD to consider it.

They got lucky to get Bedard. They got lucky to stay at #2 this season. Don't mess with the luck. Draft best available at pick #2 (I'm officially in on demidov) then try to trade back into the top 12 and get the best defenseman available. They collected all these assets. Now it's time to use them.

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May 12 at 2:10 p.m.

SMH

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No matter how you look at it Montreal will get a dream player at 5 so no reason to move up, even if somehow only one defenseman gets drafted in the top 4 (lindstrom and demidov get drafted before Levshunov and Silayev which is very unlikely) Montreal will get an A+ prospect at 5

May 12 at 2:24 p.m.

ht42

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Quoting: exo2769

Did you see the Habs young core vs the Hawks young core ??

Habs are by a mile foward the Hawks in their rebuilt......

May 12 at 6:08 p.m.

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RicXX

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Oh what did I start... I just used Mtl as an example and every trade down now has Mtl and Chi doing the deal... lol oops!

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