I don’t think I’d give up a top 10 pick for Gibson, even 50% retained. 10th overall pays for the retention, but Gibson is a cap dump at 6.4 mill, so Anaheim should be adding there, not NJD adding holtz and Marino

Marino AND holtz is just icing on the cake to make it even more brutal

Anaheim isn’t willing to retain that much

Clang is not NHL ready

Pieces on Anaheim I’d trade that for:

McTavish
Carlsson
Mintyukov (maybe)
Your 2024 1st

But you've gotta consider what you are getting in return. Joh Gibson is a 30 y.o. Goalie with 3 years on his contract, whose been in a very ****ty situation for the last three years or so. He's still elite, and will steal wins for a Devils team that NEEDS a goalies. He's a career .910 Sv% and has kept the Ducks in so many games. You gotta consider the piece coming your way at a bargain. It would be cheaper than the following goalies:

-Fillip Gustavsson
-Jake Allen
-Vitek Vanacek
-Darcy Kuemper

Alright. Gibson over the last 3 years has a worse GSAx than every single one of these goalies.

Frankly he just isn’t a good goalie at this point, and hasn’t been in a half decade

Holtz, Marino and a top-10 pick?

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No no and no

(Yawn)

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I feel like you are trying to ask for something specifically, but i am not sure what. Also, your spell check needs to be better, all the unneccisary capitals.

I was not abLE tO set CertAin LetterS with capS ON

He's saying add Zegras.....

To which I would point out, that package doesn't land Zegras alone. Holtz is not putting it together at the NHL level at all on any side of the puck, Marino is a nice piece but his contract is the bulk of his value and Anaheims not in a position to benefit from it before it's over, and it's a weak draft.

That’s it!

This package for Gibson 50% and Zegras 50%

Marino = Gibson 50%
10oa pick = Zegras
Holtz = Retention

Okay, let's all stop the nonsense. The New Jersey first alone is more than Gibson is worth. Anaheim isn't about to retain 50% on Gibson. So the issues are (1) is Gibson for Holtz and Marino fair, and (2) if not, what would New Jersey add for either one of them alone for Gibby? Personally, the answer to (1) is No. The answer to (2) is I don't think that the Devils should give up on Holtz this early because he really could turn out to be the top-6 RW he was drafted to be, whereas Marino is more or less a known quantity by now. So my feeling is that Gibson without retention for Marino and the 2025 Winnipeg second that New Jersey owns is a fair exchange.

By the way, we're not giving up Zegras, Carlsson or McTavish.

Lol, no, try again. Zegras >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10OA, holtz doesn't pay for retention on either player, he's a project worth a 2nd round pick at this point.

Sweet Jeebus.

Probably not. Even with retention, I do not think Gibson returns a top-4 dman and top prospect. In reality, it’s probably one decent prospect, one goalie, and that perhaps depends on how much $$ is held back.



Nothing. Marino for Gibson one for one is probably the closest to realistic. But I doubt NJD gives a good dman, when they are trying to add one. (Filling one hole, creating another).



That is probably not far off, but would likely be some retention even with Marino alone. There is not a shortage of 0.888 goalies in this league. There is a finite amount of cap space.



If Verbeek were asking for #10 pick…plus our best forward prospect…plus a top-4 dman…he is likely dangling a top asset. He is no dummy (I doubt he would even ask for any of those pieces)

Holtz isn't a top prospect anymore, he's 22 and has done nothing to justify his draft position, he's a reclimation project.

At the end of the day, Gibson was still stealing wins for Anaheim, and NJ goaltending was still pissing them away. It's a very weak UFA market, you're trading for one and prices will be high, or you're treading water next season, live within the scope of reality.

John Gibson remains one of the worst goalies in hockey every year. Stealing 4 games a year out of 60 doesn’t mean ****

theres not a goalie in the league who would have good numbers on this ducks team over the last 5 years. blaming a goalie behind one of the leagues most embarssing defensive structures under Eakins and a rebuilding team? People seems to forget how un-****ing-believable he was when the ducks were actually a good team.

John Gibson, 1st goalie in history to play on a bad team.

And yet he has worse numbers than guys like Kahkonen and Blackwood on the damn sharks.