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Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:59 a.m.

Estimating a similar finish by the Leafs next year. 18+23 = 9th based on PuckPedia. But that 23 is next year. I don't know how that does for devaluing the pick from Flames perspective and not sure the 4th covers that. I think if Flames were in a tear down rebuild this would make more sense. But seems they want to retool more than rebuild. And the later you push the picks out the later they become players for the NHL club.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:47 a.m.

Thread: Trading A Couple of 1sts Plus Other Smart Trades

Pick value is there in Hawks trade. If there is someone in late first they want to move up and grab this would be a good deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:44 a.m.

Thread: Trevling likes bigger players

Toronto couldn't put together a realistic package that would make the Hawks trade Vlassic.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:30 a.m.

Thread: Shutdown Studs

Please stop with the Jones trades. Not happening

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 3:20 p.m.

Thread: Tres touch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>You are off a year. He has 6 years left, turning 30 in the first year. He will be 36 at the end.</div></div>

1. 24/25
2. 25/26
3. 26/27
4. 27/28
5. 28/29
6. 29/30

Contract ends summer of 2030. Jones was born October 3, 1994. Making him 35 when the contract ends. Now who can't do basic math?

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:32 a.m.

Thread: Tres touch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Look at the amount of talent they've traded already...

Jones doesn't fit your competitive window, which is many many years away. You're rebuilding, and it appears you have a hard time accepting that obvious fact.</div></div>

Yes, but Jones fits the rebuilding window EXTREMELY well. He serves a purpose. And he has more value to Hawks than he does in a trade. You have a hard time accepting that obvious fact.

Go try and pull another teams RHD.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:30 a.m.

Thread: Tres touch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>A bigger hole on the team in the immediate future yes. Did you forget you're in year 2 of a scorched earth rebuild or something? Have you not been paying attention the last 2 years?</div></div>

The Hawks have 0 RHD prospects close to NHL. Jones is a solidifying veteran on the right side for years with the young LHD. Jones may be overpaid, but the Hawks don't need the cap space. He helps them get to the floor. And by the time they need more cap space the cap will be rising.

RHD is a difficult position to fill with top line talent. And I will argue that while Jones is not a #1 D, he is a 1st pair RHD in the NHL.

I wouldn't pay more than a 4th for Robertson. He has a terrible injury history. Lillypad is not worth the extra.

You have posted about a half-dozen of various Jones to Leafs acgm's. Hawks have no need to trade him, no desire to trade him, and WILL NOT retain in trade of him. Talk to the Hawks in 4 years, maybe they will trade him with retention then.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:19 a.m.

Thread: Overpaying to avoid bickering

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>You don't speak for the hawks, who've established a pattern with past trades already.

Jones would much rather be on a playoff team like the leafs than enduring a scorched earth rebuild with the hawks. Do you forget why he originally requested the trade that sent him to Chicago?

It's not like the cities are all that different either, so this should be common sense.</div></div>

He also rejected trades to Canadian teams. Trading Jones doesn't help the Hawks.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:18 a.m.

Thread: NFL style trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>There is only one player in your whole org we would move that pick for and we all know that isn’t happening</div></div>

Ok, you got us. We will include Ryan Donato too.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:17 a.m.

Thread: off season

I think the 6 years @ 10.5M for Toews is the troll giveaway here.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:15 a.m.

Thread: shakeup the leafs need

Hawks let Kampf go for free.
Hawks don't need more 4th line players
Kampf makes too much for a rebuilding team 4th line player.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:13 a.m.

Thread: Krakken

Hawks decline. This doesn't help.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 9:12 a.m.

Thread: Tres touch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Jones is a #1D stuck on a bad team and there's a ****load of evidence to support that. This trade is an overpayment and he's overpaid by probably a mil or so, but Jones at 8.5 mil would be in the argument for our most valuable player come playoff time.</div></div>

Are you kidding me with "overpayment"?
1. Hawks are not interested in trading Jones. Trading him creates a bigger hole on the team.
2. Hawks are NOT retaining on Jones for 6 years.
3. Lilly and Robertson do not have the value you think you are offering in this trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:01 p.m.

Thread: all in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dh91</b></div><div>You think it costs a 2nd to move off of a 2.4 mil contact? :tearsofjoy What precedent has been set where that is the case? Or are you just making things up</div></div>

It is 3 years at 2.4M for an unneeded 4th line player we let walk for free. Puckpedia Cap Relief says 3 years 2.4M is late 1st to dump. I am giving you discount of a late 2nd to dump. Hawks don't need more 3rd/4th line players.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:58 p.m.

Thread: Marner to Vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>Now J

Now JT would never waive except at the TDL imo. If he did and his actual money owed in the 900k range after July 1. Why wouldn't the black hawks want a guy that would have lead their team in scoring last season?</div></div>

They would take him for future considerations. Hawks aren't paying you for 11M cap hit.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 9:01 a.m.

Thread: Time to come back home Naz

Hawks not retaining on Donato

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 9:00 a.m.

Thread: Marner - Jones trade

I wouldn't trade Jones for Marner 1 for 1. Hawks decline

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:58 a.m.

Thread: all in

Gonna cost you one of those Vegas 2nds to dump Kampf.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:57 a.m.

Thread: Next season - Dumping Mikheyev

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BrockChoy</b></div><div>hawks will want a 2nd rounder</div></div>

What this guy said.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:56 a.m.

Thread: Canucks 24-25

Buy him out then. Costs a 2nd to dump Mikheyev

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:55 a.m.

Thread: Preds

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SociallyHawkward</b></div><div>Take out the 2nd and the hawks might have interest</div></div>

I am not even interested for the 3rd round pick.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:54 a.m.

Thread: Wings

LHD is the LAST position the Hawks would be paying for. Deny

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:49 a.m.

Thread: Marner to Vegas

Hawks aren't paying for Tavares. You can have FC after his bonus is paid.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24 at 2:44 p.m.

Thread: WINNERRRR

Just doesn't make sense for the Hawks. Look for a contending team.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24 at 2:34 p.m.

Thread: How Many Times Am I Gonna Do This

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kous</b></div><div>What's you position within the Hawks? Until Kyle Davidson lets us know we will keep sending him back to the Hawks</div></div>

No thank you. You gave him that trash contract. Your problem now.

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